gotta love your older white americans

[DepressiveJuice]

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You are so full of your political correctness that you dont even know the literal definition of "native born". It means people who were born in this country, be it white, black, anyone, as long as they were born in America. Thats what milo means when he says "native born american". Now, go back to your school books.

and thats exactly my point. i know its not good to use sarcasm over the net. but sometimes you get people that are so ignorant, you cant help yourself

 

[IhateOsama]

This thread should be locked. Nothing is worse when well to do people argue about race. Donate your time to the ACLU, MECHA or KKK if you are so inclined but don't waste server space with your stupidity.

 

[-SD-]

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and thats exactly my point. i know its not good to use sarcasm over the net. but sometimes you get people that are so ignorant, you cant help yourself

Well, it didnt really work since milo explicitly said "native BORN american" and not "native american", but thanks for playing.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

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I think our solution is to no longer accept immigration of any kind. Or severely limit it to exceptionally skilled, English speaking foreigners. Armed guards on the border. You cross illegally, you get shot.

NO social security for Non Native born immigrants. If they want it... become a citizen the legal way. As it stands now H1B visas recieve SS in 6 years!! It takes you and me TEN FRIGGIN YEARS to start receiving benefits!

I think we should offer HUGE financial incentives to companies who keep jobs in the country.

I think any company or manager who hires illegal aliens should be severely punished. Manadatory jail time.

No affirmative action... ever again.. by its nature its as racist an idea as could exist. You want to get into college or be a cop... better do well on the test... your skin color is no longer an excuse. No one shoule EVER question someones proffessional ablity based on their skin color... but thats what happens with affirmative action.

English needs to become the official language of America and be spoken in all places of business.

No earned income credit for people at the poverty level. They use the largest amount of social services... if they want disposable income... stop having kids and go to school.

Having additional children while on welfare does not increase benefits.

No free medical care, free schooling reduced housing for immigrants. NOTHING, NADA. You either pay like the rest of us... or you get shipped back to Whereever for treatment.

All immigrants who do recive emergency medical care will have the bills forwarded to their respective countries ALONG with them. Their countries fucked up state is responsible for them illegally entering in the first place... they can pay to keep them alive.

Severely reduce foriegn aid. ESPECIALLY to Africa and Any middle eastern countries. No more AIDS money, No more REBUILDING money. We have plenty of starving poor people in America we need to take are of first... you can have whatever leftovers remain. AND we certainly have PLENTY of people with AIDS here who cant afford medication... yet we give it to African like fucking PEZ.

Thats where I would start. And I dont think any of those ideas sound racist.

 

[teen1216]

Threads like this seem to disintegrate when everyone uses rash generalizations about groups of people. All older white Americans do not act the same way, just like all younger white Americans are not necessarily inarticulate. Choose your words carefully and try and avoid insulting statements to whole groups when you have only met a small sample from said group. I would like to know if any of those believing that the economy has declined in the past decades feel that this may be partially due to the ideal of "buy American" falling to the wayside?

 

[Burning_Inside]

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I think our solution is to no longer accept immigration of any kind. Or severely limit it to exceptionally skilled, English speaking foreigners. Armed guards on the border. You cross illegally, you get shot.

NO social security for Non Native born immigrants. If they want it... become a citizen the legal way. As it stands now H1B visas recieve SS in 6 years!! It takes you and me TEN FRIGGIN YEARS to start receiving benefits!

I think we should offer HUGE financial incentives to companies who keep jobs in the country.

I think any company or manager who hires illegal aliens should be severely punished. Manadatory jail time.

No affirmative action... ever again.. by its nature its as racist an idea as could exist. You want to get into college or be a cop... better do well on the test... your skin color is no longer an excuse. No one shoule EVER question someones proffessional ablity based on their skin color... but thats what happens with affirmative action.

English needs to become the official language of America and be spoken in all places of business.

No earned income credit for people at the poverty level. They use the largest amount of social services... if they want disposable income... stop having kids and go to school.

Having additional children while on welfare does not increase benefits.

No free medical care, free schooling reduced housing for immigrants. NOTHING, NADA. You either pay like the rest of us... or you get shipped back to Whereever for treatment.

All immigrants who do recive emergency medical care will have the bills forwarded to their respective countries ALONG with them. Their countries fucked up state is responsible for them illegally entering in the first place... they can pay to keep them alive.

Severely reduce foriegn aid. ESPECIALLY to Africa and Any middle eastern countries. No more AIDS money, No more REBUILDING money. We have plenty of starving poor people in America we need to take are of first... you can have whatever leftovers remain. AND we certainly have PLENTY of people with AIDS here who cant afford medication... yet we give it to African like fucking PEZ.

Thats where I would start. And I dont think any of those ideas sound racist.

Milo for prez

 

[Ffactor]

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anfd FFactor... major universities did not invent most of the wonderful technologies that we use today... most of the greatest inventions would have were developed by private individuals who were for the most part self taught and quite ingenious.

Nope, you are thinking about discoveries many of which were accidental back in the 1700 or 1800's. The technologies we enjoy today were mostly developed at institutions of higher learning or government institutions and what I'm saying is look at the racial make-up of these places. Look at the scientists and researchers at places like Harvard, Yale, NIH, MIT, NASA, etc. You're feeling of national pride is understandable but misguided. Watch, "Gangs of New York", or read the book, "How The Irish Became White" by Art McDonald. Are you proud or jealous? Most of the base emotions like racism, violence etc. etc. come out of jealousy.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

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Gangs of New York was a great movie... and if I were there... I would have sided with the villian as a Nativist. At that time they were protecting their livlihood.. alhtough misguided by corrupt politicians.

BUT there is a HUGE difference in immigration then and now... bear with me.


In the 18th and 19th century... there was a culturally homogenous attitude that was quickly adopted by most immigrants. This quickly lead to economic growth and prosperity. Many economic studies had shown that immigration during those times had a POSITIVE affect on even local economies... so while they nativist may have been protectionist... they didnt really need to be... but at the time they didnt realize this. Another thing to consider is that most of those immigrants in spite of VERY limited education immediately started learning English... or came from English speaking countries.


The here and now.

Immigrants now come to the US but still remain completely loyal to their native culture and language to the point of DEFIANCE. The reduced economic output due to language and cultural differences, which thanks to Political Correctedness must be accepted is a harsh drain on our economy and social resources.

Thanks to our social structure, immigrants now receive welfare benefits, free schooling, mandatory medical care. The complexities of our scoiety have made it impossible to continue supporting all this without an appropriate tax base.

The problem lies in the fact that our media and education system has us all brainbwashed into beleiving that we can support this hodge podge of diversity which produces so little yet CONSUMES so much. All that with no negatve effect on our middle class. LOL

California... used to be the 5th largest economy in the world. It is now on the verge of bankruptcy. One of the biggest factors is our immigration problem.

Mexican immigrants account for 40% of our population but only produce 3% of our economic output. Most of them pay little or no taxes. Most of them are uninsured.

SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE.

WHICH IS IT?

in the 18 and 19th century we did not provide free services to Irish, German and Italian immigranst.... they made their own way or they Starved.

those day are gone... this is the 21st century... how are we goind to feed, care and support all these people??? More taxes?


You all dont like my solutions and my rage...

but do you have ANYTHING to offer? Do you think because you're not in Cali that this problem wont spread to you?

Cali is the future of all other states... what you see here is a little glimpse into the socialism that awaits you.

 

[Ffactor]

Agree with the last post.

 

[gwl9dta4]

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Instead of just listening to my racist diatribe... becasue YES I am a racist... and Im proud of it.

Go out for yourselves and do some looking. Things are NOT getting any better for educated Native born Americans. They are getting worse. We have a dwindling middle class and an ever increasing level of socialism which relies on, primarily support from the same middle income tax bracket that its very nature destroys.

How can som eof you look around at all your middle class friends and neighbors... especially in California... but now even in places like Utah... Minnesota... Kansas and tell me you dont see a problem

Yes... corporate greed is a big part of it... but the HEART of the problem is all the people just accepting it because they have been brainwashed into thinking that doing anything about it or standing up for what you believe in is racist. They think they HAVE to accpet all these immigrants and give them what they want. You dont have to accept them or their cultures or their language. Why would you want to?

Its NOT racist... its protectionist.... and its national pride. I may have racist attitudes... but they are founded on reality in places like LA, San Diego, Detriot.... BUT My first priority is Nationalism and Protectionism. I want my kids to grow up in a western culture... not in the united States of Mexico. And not in the United States of the NAACP or the United States of the ACLU.

I cant help but feel that many of you would gladly accept that, not realizing that you are dooming your children and your grandchildren to lives of poverty.

anfd FFactor... major universities did not invent most of the wonderful technologies that we use today... most of the greatest inventions would have were developed by private individuals who were for the most part self taught and quite ingenious.

The bggest contribution the Major Universities have made is fooling Naive` young people like you into thingking that diverse, heterogenous workforces are the desired holy grails of society. Only a society with a homogenous workforce will ever remain a superpower and remain economically viable.

In 30 to 40 short years we are already seeing our economic prowess destroyed by our rainbow of diversirty and all the people who accept shipping jobs off, selling out to immigrants as acceptable.

You were taught to think that is they way things SHOULD be... you are brainwashed by it on the TV and in college... and you preach it like Gospel here.

Only time will prove me right. Its too bad thats the one thing we do not have much left of...

I am a non American immigrant and i agree with what he said as politically incorrect as it may seem. But it seems that the american public has indeed been brainwashed into thinking that anything that is "OBVIOUS" is not obvious at all then label the obvios as "politically incorrect" and there you have it. You can stare truth in the face and convince yourself it's not there.

I had to learn English and intergrate into the culture and i hate seeing immigrants come here and take take and take some more and run our country into the ground. I'm sick of it and see myself possibly resettling into another country in decades to come.

I hate the stupid sence of shame of being a white man in the USA. And many of you will see me as racist for saying this but i prefer to be among my own kind, and so does every ethnic group on this planet. But "WE" are made to feel racist for preffering so.