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Got the 100lb dbells for shoulder press.

Lift Chief

Lift Chief

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Got the 100lb dbells for seated military yesterday. Repped about 4 or so... first one with help though.

Not huge, but i'm pleased.
 
Great job dude.

I hate how the bells jump up 5 pounds each. It makes getting to the 105's a really challenging feat.
 
Not huge?????!!!

Are you fucking joking? 100lb dumbells for seated military press is insane. Ive met pro bodybuilders who couldnt do that much weight.

Awesome job.
 
Good job dude. That is impressive. I think shoulder press should be the bench mark for strenth not the bench. The bench is way overrated. I mean heck your laying down even.

But seriously that is alot. Most I have ever got was the 85s and I was stoked about that.
 
Very nice man.

Do
you bring them all
the way down or
until your forearms are
perpendicular with the floor?


Highest i've seen anyone
do was the 120's,
but he only brought
them down to parallel.


He repped them for
6-10reps I think.



RedHotX:redhot:
 
yea Ive been doing tat for 6-8 reps, can't go higher cuz my stupid gym only goes up to 100's
 
beastboy said:
My shoulder press is about equal to my bench.....go figure.
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That ain't right...

Redhot: arms to about a 45 degree angle. Basically i bring the dbells down to about my chin... any further and i feel too much of a strain on my shoulders.

AustinTX: yea bro mine only goes up to 100 as well... sucks...
 
Lift Chief said:


That ain't right...

Redhot: arms to about a 45 degree angle. Basically i bring the dbells down to about my chin... any further and i feel too much of a strain on my shoulders.

AustinTX: yea bro mine only goes up to 100 as well... sucks...
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I used to take them all the way down but now I take them to about ear level (just under a 45 degree angle) for the same reasons.

My gym goes up to 140's, but I've never done a shoulder press with them.
 
The first time I did it... I was so pumped, I couldn't wait to train shoulders again just so I could do it again..

Way to go man.

I love dumbell presses... the only problem for me is that I (normally) train alone, so it is hard as hell to get them in position.

But since I have been working out with the boyband, I have someone to help me get those 120's up in position.
 
Thats awesome that you got up 100 dbs for shoulder press. Slowly working my way up on db presses.. Currently doing 85lb dbs for 3-4 reps...Really feel them the next day.
 
Historical note:

In the heyday of Muscle Beach in the '30s and '40s... you were considered "strong" if you could do your incline bench with 100s.
 
AAP said:
The first time I did it... I was so pumped, I couldn't wait to train shoulders again just so I could do it again..

Way to go man.

I love dumbell presses... the only problem for me is that I (normally) train alone, so it is hard as hell to get them in position.

But since I have been working out with the boyband, I have someone to help me get those 120's up in position.
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How long did it take you to go from 100s to 120s?

It took me about 5 months or so to go from 85s to 100s, but the higher you go up the harder it gets of course.
 
SofaGeorge said:
Historical note:

In the heyday of Muscle Beach in the '30s and '40s... you were considered "strong" if you could do your incline bench with 100s.
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How old were you back then SG? 20-25? lol jk


LiftChief, Can I take you to show and tell at my school?

That`s some big weights for shoulder presses. congrats.
 
Right now I can
incline the 100s for
a good few reps
(down to chest, full
stretch).

My shoulder presses
is maybe 85-90's if
I go to parallel.


I usually just use
barbell for shoulder exercises
cause it's hard as
hell to get the
dumbbells up.



RedHotX:redhot:
 
SofaGeorge said:
Historical note:

In the heyday of Muscle Beach in the '30s and '40s... you were considered "strong" if you could do your incline bench with 100s.
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Hmm, really?

Didn't Arnold
bench something like 400+
lbs?

100's seems nothing
to me, but a
400lbs bench is a
lot.



RedHotX:redhot:
 
Lift Chief said:


How long did it take you to go from 100s to 120s?

It took me about 5 months or so to go from 85s to 100s, but the higher you go up the harder it gets of course.
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About a year.

The reason being is before I start trying to do more weight, I try to do more reps with the same weight, before I try to do more reps, I try to do BETTER reps with the same weight.

When I was at 100's, when I got to 8 reps (loose and explosive), I started trying to get 8 reps super strict with a slow negative. I could get four and then have to blast out the remaining (if I was lucky to get all 8). Then, I got 6, and finally 8 super strict reps... then I went up to 110's and started over with a loose explosive style, working on getting 8 reps... and when I did... worked on getting 8 strict reps.... when that was accomplished... I moved up to 120's.
 
Lift Chief said:


Holy shit...

Were you on cycle... if so, what was it?
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If I remember right (it's been awhile), I was on a light ox-only cycle (280 mg/wk) when I made the jump.


Originally posted by curling

Dang themachine, would you mind posting your shoulder routine. With how many times a week, sets and reps. I would really like to get to a 100 lbsers.
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Sure; I don't (generally) do the same shoulder workout 2x in a row. I work shoulders directly once per week.

I start out with 2 sets of rotator warm-ups and then proceed to the first exercise in the workout, which will be a heavy compound movement (I choose one from: standing bar press, seated bar press, seated bell press, hang clean, hang clean and press, upright rows).

I will do the heavy primary movement for 2 warm up sets and 4 work sets, generally pyramiding from 10 reps down to 2 or 3 over the 4 work sets. This is generally how I do all my sets of all my exercises (unless I pick too light of weight, then I will rep higher; or sometimes, if the feeling strikes me, I'll rep higher...)

Next, I'll do a secondary movement for 4 sets; most of the time, this is where I'll target side delts; occasionally, I'll hit rear delts second; assuming side delts, I'll choose from unilateral cable raises, unilateral db raises, bilateral db raises, upright rows.

Next, I'll wrap it up with four sets of a second secondary movement, usually rear delts: seated bilateral db raises, cobra crosses, unilateral cable raises, incline db raises.

I will occassionally do some shrugs after this for 3 sets if I feel I need it. I may also add in a few (not many) work sets to the workout if I feel like it. I try to get in and out in an hour or less.
 
AAP said:


About a year.

The reason being is before I start trying to do more weight, I try to do more reps with the same weight, before I try to do more reps, I try to do BETTER reps with the same weight.

When I was at 100's, when I got to 8 reps (loose and explosive), I started trying to get 8 reps super strict with a slow negative. I could get four and then have to blast out the remaining (if I was lucky to get all 8). Then, I got 6, and finally 8 super strict reps... then I went up to 110's and started over with a loose explosive style, working on getting 8 reps... and when I did... worked on getting 8 strict reps.... when that was accomplished... I moved up to 120's.
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I like that method...

I typically focus on a goal... like pressing 100lb dbells for seated mil and go up in weight any and every way possible until i reach that goal.

Now that i'm here i'm going to focus more on controlled and slow reps... and then switch gyms and try to go up again.
 
90% of my growth comes when I get the reps down to a very controlled manner. Sure, I can use more weight the other way (explosive)... but hitting it with a controlled neg will set the stress in deeper in the target muscle and not the tendons and secondary muscles like what happens when you go faster.
 
..

I have never seen anyone do shoulder presses with 150's...

I cant even imagine trying to get them in place... hell you would need a spotter for each arm.

I did the 80's for sets of 8 but I go all the way down... needless to say I wrecked my shoulder.

being very small boned really sucks sometimes.
 
I've used dumbbells for shoulder presses quite a bit, but I also really like seated military press (to the front) with a free barbell inside a power rack. I position a bench with a seat back inside the rack and adjust the pegs of the power rack so that they're pointing to the inside on the side facing me, and high enough that it holds the bar about six inches short of extension. Good stuff.
 
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I can do 100s and have done 110s. Getting the 110s into position is crazy. I used two spotters. Thats what sucks w/dumbells when you get heavy getting them in position is very hard.
 
THeMaCHinE said:
I just kick em up off the knees and have a spotter there to help with the first rep if necessary.
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That is how I do my incline dumbells with the 160's. What I do is place a flat bench about 3 feet in front of my incline bench horizontal. Then I place the 160's on the flat bench so that when I pick them up, they are already at thigh height. I don't have to "dead lift" them up from the floor. Then I step back with them still against my thighs and sit down in the incline... use my quads to bounce/pony them up. Then when I get them in place... I raise my feet and place them up against the flat bench. I have found that elevating my feet kind of "locks" me into the proper incline position and I have little to zero back arch when pressing.
 
I rarely do incline/flat bells anymore -- the bells are so big that your grip ends up being about the same as a bar anyway -- and they are fairly awkward to get into position... which ends up stressing out my rear delts of all things... When I do use them, I kick them up on incline just like I do with the shoulders. On flat, I just fall back with them.

Seems like not being grounded would count against you for the press, but more power to you if it works for you... (maybe I'm not imagining correctly how your feet lock into the bench...)
 
Yeah I can't even get close to 100s on shoulder press. Last week I hit a personal best of 60s for 6 on my 3rd set. I take about 20 minutes on the negative portion of each rep so you can see why the weight I use is so low. Ok.
 
I've probably gained more strength in the past 8 months that i have in the past 2 years since switching to a high intensity, low volume routine...

Kind of off subject but...
 
Lift Chief said:
I've probably gained more strength in the past 8 months that i have in the past 2 years since switching to a high intensity, low volume routine...

Kind of off subject but...
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I hear ya.
 
THeMaCHinE said:
I rarely do incline/flat bells anymore -- the bells are so big that your grip ends up being about the same as a bar anyway


Seems like not being grounded would count against you for the press, but more power to you if it works for you... (maybe I'm not imagining correctly how your feet lock into the bench...)
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I use them because I tend to get a better stretch with them than barbells.

The way my feet are on the flat bench is identical to the way your feet are on those incline barbell benches that have the foot rest up for you. You know, you sit down and rather than putting your feet down, you place them out and it keeps your quads and back at a 90 degree angle. When my feet are on the floor, it is easier to arch my back.

Go here and see how his back is arched while his feet are on the floor...

http://www.gymonthehill.freeserve.co.uk/ex_incbp.htm


now remember how when you have a bench like this... (below) you don't have so much strain on your back.

http://www.galaxy-star.com.tw/kw-s16.htm



and now go here... and see what my method did for him.
http://www.bodybuilders.com/richgag.htm
 
and now go here... and see what my method did for him.
http://www.bodybuilders.com/richgag.htm [/B][/QUOTE]


LOL LOL

Themachine... yeah, i agree... but in what i've experienced- the vast majority of trainees are best suited by a high intensity, very low volume routine.

I do know a few who thrive on higher volume though...
 
THeMaCHinE said:


lol...
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Don't you knock it until you tried you wimp.


Wait. Our physiques are suppose to be going in the other direction right.

Awww shit.
 
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