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Got a D.U.I. lastnight...
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JerseyArt said:
Yawn. Some good stuff here, like the name calling too.
I never made any value judgments. I never argued that DUI was OK. I've never argued that position, and I have posted hundreds of times on this topic. You inferred it - did you do that because you need to justify your beliefs?
Consider the context of this post. hardrock got a DUI and sought advice. My experience is relevant. So I shared it. That's it. I really really know this stuff. I've talked with other EF bros about their legal situations. I'm just sharing knowldege orb.
If you must find something against which to grind your ax, grind it here: the disparate punishments for crimes whose impact on society are similar. Re-read my posts if you wish. I never bragged about beating the system, instead, I just relayed personal experiences.
The only stat that would be useful is accidents per mile for speeding vs DUI. But since the overwhelming majority of both speeders and drunk drivers are never caught, there is no TRUE comparison. We both know that the overwhelming majority of DUI drivers are never caught. Nor are speeders.
However, what we CAN compare, and IS relevant, is this:
The percentage of DUI fatalities (in relation to all fatalities) 25 years ago was LOWER than the percentage of DUI fatalities (in relation to all fatalities) today.
In other words, despite increasingly rigorous laws and demonization of drunk drivers, the percentage of DUI fatalities in relation to all fatalities has actually gone up.
Maybe, given that data, it is time to take a look at how this problem is being addressed. You've got millions - literally millions - of Americans with criminal records and decreased prospects who didn't even do anything that caused harm.
Does a red flag go up when you read that?
it only seems that way because you want to see it that way. This issue has nothing to do with me. My DUI experience is over. Does it matter if the discussion piece here is about me or Spider-Man? Nope. The topic is the issue; I am only speaking to it personally because I have personal experience.
You have an issue or an agenda that blinds you to seeing things only one way. That's too bad, because you often can't teach old dogs new tricks.
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hardrock said:
I suggest pleading guilty, judges get pissed when you waste their time...
hardrock said:
In most states it should be a 'no-contest'; still adjudicated guilty but cannot be used in any civil litigation.
Typically this is done on exchange for minimum mandatory sentencing guidelines.
Is this guilty / No contest to a DUI or to a lesser charge? Sometimes you can arrange a NC plea to a lesser charge for first offenders....
it was in front of the cop car so I'm sure there was. I passed all the feild test except when the bitch had me hold my foot 8 in off the ground for what seemed like 20 minutes. I started to lose my balance after a minute or so, but regained without stumbling or touching the ground. Blew a .197 at the station twice after tho 
hardrock said:it was in front of the cop car so I'm sure there was. I passed all the feild test except when the bitch had me hold my foot 8 in off the ground for what seemed like 20 minutes. I started to lose my balance after a minute or so, but regained without stumbling or touching the ground. Blew a .197 at the station twice after tho
I would look at the videotape before making a decision. More than 2X the legal limit reading and passing the sobriety tests could be a good argument for a faulty BT reading.
