gonna catch hell for this

[layinback]

little background: 6'4 240 very lean. training on and off since 1977.(started at 13 yrs old) training consistently for last 11 yrs. very strict diet 40\30\30 mostly. low volume high intensity. didnt juice till i was 36 with a good solid natural frame. done a total of 6 cycles and i am currently on #7. 4 of these cycles were combo inject\oral and 2 were orals with short duration. the oral cycles were cutting\strength driven and to that end very successful. yes i know i could have accomplished this with injects..... anywho i realy liked the results i got from oxandrolone. i understand the inherent dangers of a oral only cycle and specifically the suppressive/ lipids/liver qualities of var. just thought i would preface so as to not look totally stupid. i am on 60mg ed/8wks. will do blood/lipids at 4.liver cleanse, flax, creatine, antioxidants and very clean diet. i have read so many opinions on pct my head is spinning. any real world exp and advice on pct and peripherals while im on would realy be appreciated. and please dont give me the obligatory "gotta do test dude"

 

[holy ghost]

yeah you wont need much for an anavar only cycle

its not very supressive on your gonads

moreso on your lipids, You might invest

into Nolvadex or Clomid for PCT thats about all youll need

simple bro keep your diet clean , Cranberrry extract always helps

me when im on anavar too with pissing

 

[iHulk]

Oxandrolone is one of my favorites. If its high grade, quality pharmacopoeia, then 60mg ed for 4 weeks won't call for any chemical PCT. All you'll need is a normal OTC supplement that detoxifies kidneys and liver.

I've done 80mg of Ox for up to 3 months straight. No break. No adverse sides. Blood panel to prove it. Only thing that will get elevated is your Urea. That is mostly because you're on a high protein diet and the Ox helps synthesize that protein so if that comes in high, no worries - to be expected. Goes back to normal after discontinued use.

If you went totally nuts and took 200mg of it every day for several months then these are the adverse reactions that you could possibly get and probably from any steroid for that matter:
Hepatic: Cholestic jaundice
Hepatocellular neoplasm and peliosis hapatis with long-term therapy.
Reversible changes in liver function tests have also shown increased in BSP (bromsulfophthalein) retention and increase in serum bilirubin, AST, SGOT (asparate aminotransferase), and alkaline phosphate.
And there are others but its mostly related to drug interactions with anticoagulants and others.

So enjoy your Ox. And cut back on the carbs to watch the true magic happen with regards muscle vascularity.
-ihulk

 

[hesnobradpitt]

I did a 5weeker with TFP Var for "research" at 80 ed and loved it
PCT was novla 40/20/20 , i had morning wood in the second week .
Brad.

 

[layinback]

I did a 5weeker with TFP Anavar - oxandrolone - for "research" at 80 ed and loved it
PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - was novla 40/20/20 , i had morning wood in the second week .
Brad.

yea 3 weeks in and sex drive is through the roof. i am 43 but i never left puberty. my skin is still oily! my experience with Anavar - oxandrolone - differs with ihulk and holyghost in that the last time i did it it shut me down. even nolvadex was slow to bring test back online. i appreciate your guys response and welcome anymore advice.

 

[mattdan]

Oxandrolone is one of my favorites. If its high grade, quality pharmacopoeia, then 60mg ed for 4 weeks won't call for any chemical PCT - post cycle therapy - . All you'll need is a normal OTC supplement that detoxifies kidneys and liver.

I've done 80mg of Ox for up to 3 months straight. No break. No adverse sides. Blood panel to prove it. Only thing that will get elevated is your Urea. That is mostly because you're on a high protein diet and the Ox helps synthesize that protein so if that comes in high, no worries - to be expected. Goes back to normal after discontinued use.

If you went totally nuts and took 200mg of it every day for several months then these are the adverse reactions that you could possibly get and probably from any steroid for that matter:
Hepatic: Cholestic jaundice
Hepatocellular neoplasm and peliosis hapatis with long-term therapy.
Reversible changes in liver function tests have also shown increased in BSP (bromsulfophthalein) retention and increase in serum bilirubin, AST, SGOT (asparate aminotransferase), and alkaline phosphate.
And there are others but its mostly related to drug interactions with anticoagulants and others.

So enjoy your Ox. And cut back on the carbs to watch the true magic happen with regards muscle vascularity.
-ihulk

Finally - someone that knows what they're talking about. Very good advice, well thought out and explained. Right down to cutting carbs. You want some, but only high quality. This will help cutting AND more importantly will help lipids.

This excessive fear of orals is internet hype spread by a buch of noobs that don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Respect orals, just don't be scared to death of them.

 

[layinback]

Finally - someone that knows what they're talking about. Very good advice, well thought out and explained. Right down to cutting carbs. You want some, but only high quality. This will help cutting AND more importantly will help lipids.

This excessive fear of orals is internet hype spread by a buch of noobs that don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Respect orals, just don't be scared to death of them.

thank you mattdan. those same guys that dog oral only will suggest a gram of test a week for a noobie. i have done a couple of oral only and got results. i did a winstrol var cycle and lost 2 or 3%bf and gained 4-5lb lean mass in 6 weeks and kept it. that may not sound like a lot but for a guy my size whos been workin out over a decade straight that aint bad.