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mvmaxx said:


ROFLMAO!! :FRlol: You and I are posting the exact same arguments and I didn't even see either of your posts until I submitted mine. Hilarious. Intelligent minds think alike.

......Then again so do dipshits. :rolleyes: <read above>

Hey we are two peas in a pot. :)

Mvmaxx,,, do me a favor and drop me a line at [email protected] I'd like to discuss something with you.
 
basically sents say i order 400 tabs of something, any AAS, you pick, and they were to seize it, could they come to my house and take me away???
 
hitmeoff said:
I really hate it when people put themselves on moral high horses.

A whole lot of you shit on E because it does some serious damage to the body. Yet most of us are in here shooting hormones into the body at doses nearly (and often more than) 10x whats normally produced in the body. Granted, E and other rec drugs are used for...recreation. Ok. And AAS, Slin, DNP and GH are used to build a better body. Ok.

But here me out, why is it sooo bad to use a drug to have fun, and not so bad to use a drug to build up your body to levels that are just not natural.

Im not about to sit here and tell you how horrible AAS and its friends are. Id be a hipocrite. I certainly have, do and will use them. I see nothing morally wrong with doing what you will to your body.

Some of these blanketed statements about what E does to you, sound unfounded, and sounds more like BS scare tactics, much like those used to swerve people from using other drugs like weed and AAS. Im sure the website that posts all those negative effects of E also has a page for AAS usage, and Im sure we can all take a nice good long laugh at that list, since we all know better. Yet we can laugh at those effects, but for some odd reason, we take the comments on E seriosuly. Just like AAS, improper, irresponsible, abusive use of E will hurt you. But like AAS, proper, responsible sensible use of E, with proper ancilliries is safe.

We take Milk Thistle, ALA, and other liver protectants to protect our bodies from liver damage due to AAS usage. We take drugs, that are actually meant for women (Clomid, HCG, Nolva) in order to kick start nat test production and help us keep our gains. Well guess what guys, E too has its ancilliries to help protect the brain from its damaging effects. Its called Prozac. And its effectiveness has been proven, go look up some articles on Medline or Psychinfo.

Ive been on this rant before. But It just burns me to the core when people try to put themselves up on some kind of moral pedastal. We do AAS, ravers do E. We both are doing things we dont HAVE to do, but rather CHOOSE to do. And our use does not have any direct, physical, negative impact on the next person, so who really cares?

Dont come at me with the line, "But we do AAS because we are trying to better our bodies" DOnt give me that. GO read up a thread over at AnabolicMadness, whodaman a well like and respect ved/mod has posted his story. Hes only 26, but yet has a cholesterol profile that puts him at a serious risk for a heart attack. What caused this? Excessive AAS and Anti-E use. ANd I only mean "clinically" excissive. He certainly wasnt doing crazy amounts of either. Many more people on that bored rushed out to gethe thier cholesterol checked, and guess what fellas? MOst came back with scary profiles. The dangers of AAS are real, as real as E. But again, its what we've chosen to do. Our reasons to do these things is irrelevant. The only thing thats relevant is our choice, and whether or not our choices has a direct physical impact on someone else, trying to do thier thing.

Later meatheads and E-Tards

you are making this statement and don't even know if he was dealing or simply posessing E.
At any rate... 3-5 years is harsh for a first offense... Or is it a repeated offense???... I bet there is way more to this story... But the problem is we will never figure this out (maybe after 3-5 years) cause he is a gonner...

By the way... most people who responded on this thread "put themselves on high moral horses" because E is mostly used by teens... They are the ones that will be our future... I already laugh at the president who used to used cocaine... Sad... I don't want to see a president who used to used E... It will be pathetic...
By the way... The boy I mentioned in my earlier post... He just died... No matter what the hell you say about this... Teen has no idea if something is right or wrong... But someone who sells them that crap does... And you call it "recreation?" Maybe you will try to argue a point that it is alright for girls to be raped while being on it? That will be interesting to hear... I volunteer to help teens whose lifes got f..ked up, thanks to drugs like E...
Moral issues, you know... has nothing to do with "moral high horses."
 
hey hitmeoff:

if you need E to have a good or better time at a rave, than I really feel sorry for you. The scare tactics you mentioned are used a lot, but not always wrongly so, and in E's case they are warranted, do some research on E. It's dangers are not even close to those you refer to as related to AAS.

The major difference you fail to connect is that AAS aren't traditionally used to have "fun"

You would say I'm going to do a few hits of E and go have some "fun."

I would say I'm going to go shoot 2cc's of Sustanon and go "work" on my tri's and wail on my delts.:p
 
I dont NEED E to have fun, just as I dont NEED (and the rest of us dont NEED) AAS to build better bodies. But we choose to.

I dont fail to recognize the differeance, in fact I stress over and over that our REASONS dont matter. Let me give you an example:

One of my best friends has turned into an alcoholic. He sees nothing wrong with drinking his shit everyday, getting a beer belly, having a drunkards tan, etc. I told him recently I was juicin. You should have seen the look on his face...as If I was Satan himself. No amount of logic or reason will ever change this guys mind on AAS usage. My AAS usage is just as evil to him, as if I was doing heroine. Obviously, I can say "well were both fucking up our bodies, but at least mine will look good when im dead!" but somehow that doesnt seem to make AAS usage any more moral. Its not. I still do it, and proud to admit.

Poin tof all this is both activites are defined as illegal (AAS, E). Irresponsible, and prolonged use of both can lead to death. Neither of the two are essential to our well being. We can get by perfectly fine in this world by not using AAS or E. So our "reasons" are irrelavent.
 
RussianBro said:


you are making this statement and don't even know if he was dealing or simply posessing E.
At any rate... 3-5 years is harsh for a first offense... Or is it a repeated offense???... I bet there is way more to this story... But the problem is we will never figure this out (maybe after 3-5 years) cause he is a gonner...

By the way... most people who responded on this thread "put themselves on high moral horses" because E is mostly used by teens... They are the ones that will be our future... I already laugh at the president who used to used cocaine... Sad... I don't want to see a president who used to used E... It will be pathetic...
By the way... The boy I mentioned in my earlier post... He just died... No matter what the hell you say about this... Teen has no idea if something is right or wrong... But someone who sells them that crap does... And you call it "recreation?" Maybe you will try to argue a point that it is alright for girls to be raped while being on it? That will be interesting to hear... I volunteer to help teens whose lifes got f..ked up, thanks to drugs like E...
Moral issues, you know... has nothing to do with "moral high horses."

I was actually respondign to the people who were bashing E use. And I agree, most teens dont know what the fuck is up. But dont kid yourself, there are plenty of teens out there using AAS as well. Sure we may convince a few on these boards to just hold off, but do you really think that the majority of the nations High school athletes visit these boards? Of course not. There are still plenty of teens out there who are shooting gear, doing irreversable damage to thier young bodies. Sure they may not die from one day to the next, but the damage is cumulative, and yes it does matter.

Is AAS as big of a problem as E for teens? Probably not. But dont tell me its not a problem at all. DOnt tell me no teen out there is stunting his growth, and fucking up his liver, because he didnt know any better. My discussion mainly involves ADULTS. I dont think teens should even be allowed ot smoke or drink, let alone use E or AAS.

So when I talk about AAS this and E that, Im strictly talking about ADULTS...Consenting, cognitive Adults. And believe it or not, Adults are the WORST drug addicts. E is quickly becoming popular in the middle age crowd, trust me, I see it.

And what the help does RAPE come into all this? Remember, I all for RESPONSIBLE, SENSIBLE use. Most people who do E DONT rape people, just as most people who use AAS DONT go crazy and bea tup thier girlfriends, so please dont use that as some sort of platform for your argument.
 
Originally posted by Mad Max
X is bad on the brain but the brain DOES regrow cells, use logic of course you can't go overboard with it, but a yearly thing isn't going to fuck you up.
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Sorry to fuck with your world,BUT the brain does not regenerate destroyed cells like other organs most notable the liver. I repeat the brain DOES NOT regrow cells. If you do not wish to believe me, ask any high school biology student.
 
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