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conan69

conan69

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I met a couple pros at the team universe show in NY

These guys are massive, but they are old
Fred Bigot just got his pro card, like a week ago
he is almost 39

here is my point

What does it take to make it to that level

YEARS of HARD work
Lota juice

My situation
Currently
6'
258lbs
11% bf, just did it 3 days ago
22 years old

i wonder if i stay on, watch my diet real close
if i will ever hit the stage???

2 things
1) waist is too big, even whe i was 185lbs it was still 36
2) Arms absolutely suck


i want so bad to get on stage, i have stepped up my doses, diet, rest, training,

Goal,
i want to hit a novice show
in 8 months time
win lose or draw i need to do it atleast once
 
You haven't competed yet? You're fucking huge as it is and I honestly thought you were an amateur waiting to become pro, but were a front-runner. You're still young as hell too. Bottom line, if anyone can do it, it's you IMO bro. And I'm not kissing your ass or anything here. Just don't kill yourself with extremely high doses.:D
 
bro go for it..your a thick dude...so after the right diet right training,the right amount of cardio....the right AS to cut you to shit..you would be all set...i say do it up..if i was as big as you..hope to be after my next cycle i would def try...we all set goals to get big..but once we are big we need to set other goals..i think that would be a good one....my 2cents g...
 
Nathan said:
You haven't competed yet? You're fucking huge as it is and I honestly thought you were an amateur waiting to become pro, but were a front-runner. You're still young as hell too. Bottom line, if anyone can do it, it's you IMO bro. And I'm not kissing your ass or anything here. Just don't kill yourself with extremely high doses.:D
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Thanks bro
thats why i am doing this cutting cycle to see how low i can get my bf%

if on this cycle i can get 7% then i know i can get contest ready

my workout parter just got me a posing video
i have to work on that shit too
 
conan...i'm surprise you haven't ripped down and done a show.you damn sure have the size,fuck it..get on that damn stage!!!like yu said win or lose,thing is you won't lose.!!!!!!!!!
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After all that I read from your posts.... I believe that you have the determiation to do it................So go for it!!!!!!

bass
 
You have an impressive base to work with that will only get better in time. Don't be in a hurry you are still very young for this game. Wider shoulders and bigger quads will make your waist look smaller, and you never know how you're arms will turn out. IMO you would do very well. What's the lowest you're bodyfat has ever been?

biaggi
 
biaggi said:
You have an impressive base to work with that will only get better in time. Don't be in a hurry you are still very young for this game. Wider shoulders and bigger quads will make your waist look smaller, and you never know how you're arms will turn out. IMO you would do very well. What's the lowest you're bodyfat has ever been?

biaggi
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when i was in the marines it was about 7% or so
but i wasnt lifting or on anything just typical marine corps training

i have no intentions of ever going pro i just want to get a novice show and go from there

there was this guy sitting next to me that took
3rd at the tri state show in tarrytown, ny
i would rock that kid he was 21
he was taller than me and only 230 which i belive at the novice level
heavys and super heavys get thrown together
 
Go for it! You never know who might be there to notice you're potential. Good luck. Keep us posted.

biaggi
 
Ok waist is too big........yahoooo.......so was Tom Platz's but he was still top ten in the WORLD! My friend.....the fact that you are 6' puts you in AWE! Bring the delts out farther.........wider lats (balances the waist), you would be a creature on stage.........stand out more. Anybody can see you have Mesomorph Genetics.....at 6'...........wow.........what a package...........I'd say good luck but I won't..........with your dedication/knowledge......luck is for Mr Puniverse making Mr. Olymplia; you have what it takes.
Break a Leg my friend.
 
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go for it bro ,,,your still very young,,ive seen amatuer shows where the average age is atleast 30 ...couple years of cutting and you'll be lethal

p.s.- im sure alot of bros on this board will show up to show you some support(i know i would if u were in ny/nj)
 
STORM SHADOW said:
Ok waste is too big........yahoooo.......so was Tom Platz's but he was still top ten in the WORLD! My friend.....the fact that you are 6' puts you in AWE! Bring the delts out farther.........wider lats (balances the waste), you would be a creature on stage.........stand out more. Anybody can see you have Mesomorph Genetics.....at 6'...........wow.........what a package...........I'd say good luck but I won't..........with your dedication/knowledge......luck is for Mr Puniverse making Mr. Olymplia; you have what it takes.
Break a Leg my friend.
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god damn you guys are giving me serious motivation
 
Oh..........forgot one good info..........go see a pro consultant...........they'll measure your body parts & tell you exactly how many inches you need where..........to have the right symetry.
 
macDbol said:
go for it bro ,,,your still very young,,ive seen amatuer shows where the average age is atleast 30 ...couple years of cutting and you'll be lethal

p.s.- im sure alot of bros on this board will show up to show you some support(i know i would if u were in ny/nj)
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NY

where would one find novice bb shows
i tried looking online
didnt find much YET but i have all night
 
hey conan, you have great potential the fact that youre hungry enough to compete in a show is all the reason why you should just go for it dont worry about weak points because the way youll place on stage will also motivate you to place higher in the next one dont even second guess it fill out the entry slip and send it in you may even surprise youself....good luck.
 
nyironman said:
hey conan, you have great potential the fact that youre hungry enough to compete in a show is all the reason why you should just go for it dont worry about weak points because the way youll place on stage will also motivate you to place higher in the next one dont even second guess it fill out the entry slip and send it in you may even surprise youself....good luck.
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Thanks bro
havent seen you around in a while
 
No doubt you have the potential. The question probably is whether you have the motivation.

I think you shoud pick a show and tell everybody you are going to enter it. Once you have committed to it, I think you will find that you are more motivated to eat and train than ever before.

At your size, a 36" waist isn't too big. I shudder to think what you will look like at age 30-35.
 
One more thing. When you get on stage, have an attitude. You have every reason to be confident, and it will show.
 
Trevdog said:
One more thing. When you get on stage, have an attitude. You have every reason to be confident, and it will show.
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Where do i find listings of shows
then i will set a date

thanks
 
Hey bro,

Your doing awesome. I know Frank Calta personally(in case you don't remember he was a pro BB in the late 70's early 80's at 21 he weighed 135 with arms skinnier than my dick. You have good gentetics, and a good head on your shoulder, get the most out of both and you'll be fine.

As far as the arms go, they're fine! Gave you my opinion before, I do not believe site injections work(at least the way most people think they do).
 
Go for it Buddy!

Conan Buddy...I've been to many novice shows...I was at that Tarrytown show you were talking about....Flex Fitness puts it on..I was there a couple years ago too...a couple of my bros competed in it....my best friend won it a couple years ago....I've been to the NYS show in Rochester in '97 (when Coleman guest posed) as well as several others..and believe me when I tell you ....you zone in on your diet and get shredded...and you will be a serious threat....I remember the kid who won the overall at Tarrytown this past fall...he was about your size, maybe a little smaller...just totally diced...you have a great future in the sport...my buddy has some great experience with shows and we are friends with Russ Testo...the guy who creates many of the Pros posing routines...I also have a list of shows that are going on over the next year or so..its in my desk at the gym I work at...E-mail me if you want any help with all of this ok bro?? Good Luck!
 
Your flip'n huge bro! Go for it!

Also Muscle Mag always has listings for shows in the back of the mag (not sure if any are novice shows though).
 
Re: Go for it Buddy!

Drizzt8 said:
Conan Buddy...I've been to many novice shows...I was at that Tarrytown show you were talking about....Flex Fitness puts it on..I was there a couple years ago too...a couple of my bros competed in it....my best friend won it a couple years ago....I've been to the NYS show in Rochester in '97 (when Coleman guest posed) as well as several others..and believe me when I tell you ....you zone in on your diet and get shredded...and you will be a serious threat....I remember the kid who won the overall at Tarrytown this past fall...he was about your size, maybe a little smaller...just totally diced...you have a great future in the sport...my buddy has some great experience with shows and we are friends with Russ Testo...the guy who creates many of the Pros posing routines...I also have a list of shows that are going on over the next year or so..its in my desk at the gym I work at...E-mail me if you want any help with all of this ok bro?? Good Luck!
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damn bro
all help would be very appreciated
shoot me an email when you get the chance
 
bro i know TOP NOTCH people that help people do shows....and let me say some famous ones.heh heh heh...oh yeah hit my "ultracycles"....
 
My buddy just won a second overall in Ann Arbor michigan a few months back. He is 21 and has about the same genetics as you. Your builds are fairly similar. He dropped his bodyfat to 3.5% for the show at 205. He is normally 230. After his win he got a card to compete at nationals. He is getting sponsored about 20,000 a year just getting started out! I think you could go far man. Just dont burn out. The best thing he said was...that after he is done dieting, he will shoot up in weight big time. You will easily be 280 after dieting...best of luck.
 
Conan you are looking to enter natural shows right?
Just kidding bro, on a serious note though:

Hey Conan, It would probably be in your best interest to enter an NPC show. They are NQ shows with novice divisions also. That way you could enter novice and the open division and get a feel how you would do in both. If you place in the top 2 in any open weight class you qualify for the junior nationals. This is the road you have to follow to become a pro. I have competed in NPC shows so if you have any questions you can E-mail me. There are plenty of shows throughout the entire country in several areas. I'm sure there are some decent shows in your area. Contact me at:
[email protected]
 
YOU CAN DO IT

YOU ARE ONLY 22 THOES GUYS ARE 30+ YOU ARE WAY AHEAD OF THEM WHEN IT COMES TO AGE. YOU GOT A LOT OF TIME TO GROW AND EVEN PASS THEN IF YOU HAVENT ALREDY.ITS ALL IN YOUR HEAD


MR.SPRING BREAK:D
 
Conan, I just about shit when I read your post. Only 22 and you have that kind of size and muscle thickness. I have a training partner who reminds me of you. He is 26 yrs old, 5-4 1/2, and is 247 at about 15% right now. he is intimidated about entering a show as he feels he is not big enough. It is taking the advice of a Top 10 olympia placer who trains at our gym to get him to do it. He is absolutely freaky big, no weak body parts yet still he thinks he needs to be bigger.
I bet all of us on here had your problem.........huge and young. You are way ahead of the game !
 
Hey conan... let's see the wheels... if they're anything like your upper body then you are one big mother fucker...
 
Conan, you have awesome size and I think you have a very good chace of geting on the stage and whoopin some ass. You shuld look even better after that cut cycle is over. Best of luck to you

M18
 
Damn Conan, what the hell you waitin on. You know what you need to work on, so do it. Then go kick their ass and come back here to share the glory with the rest of us. For some of us it will be the closest we'll ever get to competing.
As big as you are I would have never guessed you were that young.

Good Luck
 
dude your one jacked ass brother. im honestly surprised that you havent entertained the thought of competing until now. you have oso much potential and your young as hell. your frame is huge and can still hold tons of muscle man. a small waist doesnt win, but a balanced physique does. if youve got the lats and shoulders to balance the waist then you could wear fucking size 54 pants and steal the show.

IMO, if you got real serious as you say youll do, by the time you hit that 8 month mark youll already be in the back of flex where they put the nationals winners and shit. youve got the genetics/potential/knowledge. glad your not letting it goto waste.
 
You HAVE to do it partner. We will tear it up in the gym, the kitchen, and anywhere else to make it happen, you can be sure of that. Time to find you a show so you have a date to focus on. Its time to get serious!!! :bright: :smash:
 
Hey Conan,
I definitely think you can win some Amateur shows. I'm in NY too, so keep us updated...I'll come check it out.
Just wonderin...how long have you been training hardcore?
 
the mechanic said:
Conan, I just about shit when I read your post. Only 22 and you have that kind of size and muscle thickness. I have a training partner who reminds me of you. He is 26 yrs old, 5-4 1/2, and is 247 at about 15% right now. he is intimidated about entering a show as he feels he is not big enough. It is taking the advice of a Top 10 olympia placer who trains at our gym to get him to do it. He is absolutely freaky big, no weak body parts yet still he thinks he needs to be bigger.
I bet all of us on here had your problem.........huge and young. You are way ahead of the game !
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your partner sounds muscle dysmophic...i know exactly how he feels
 
jbone said:
You HAVE to do it partner. We will tear it up in the gym, the kitchen, and anywhere else to make it happen, you can be sure of that. Time to find you a show so you have a date to focus on. Its time to get serious!!! :bright: :smash:
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Hey partner i was waiting for you to chime in,
T minus 12 days till all hell breaks lose in upstate NY
J i cant wait to get back, this summer has been horrible

ill shoot ya an email
 
holy shit i thought you was much older :confused: where can i see you pictures? the link was a no show
 
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Hey conan, politics has alot of influence on the national circuit! I know Mr. PA (1988)! He competed on the National level and he came in looking huge and ripped!!!!! He placed 12th!!!! He gave up after that because he said that he took everything under the Sun (halo, a-bombs, d-bol, etc.. ) to the max and his diet with imaculate and 12th was his best! He said that there is no way I am going to do more gear than what I did for that show! The guys in the pro circuit will take as much as they need til they win! But by then, there DEAD! (momo beniza, andreas munzer, etc...)
 
Go for it bro!! I've actually been contemplating the same thing. I'm only 21, 6', 245 (shot up to 260 when I was bulking)...and I would estimate around 10% bf (I have a six pack). I'm gonna start bulking again next month...Test/Fina/D-bol/EQ...hoping to hit 275. I'm thinking about competing late next year sometime. Let me know what u decide. :fro:
 
Big Buck said:
Go for it bro!! I've actually been contemplating the same thing. I'm only 21, 6', 245 (shot up to 260 when I was bulking)...and I would estimate around 10% bf (I have a six pack). I'm gonna start bulking again next month...Test/Fina/D-bol/EQ...hoping to hit 275. I'm thinking about competing late next year sometime. Let me know what u decide. :fro:
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Fuck late next year, if you have a 6 pack your bf is 8% or less
fuck that with 10 weeks of hard diet and cutting you could hit a comp later this year
i say go for it
 
conan69 said:


Fuck late next year, if you have a 6 pack your bf is 8% or less
fuck that with 10 weeks of hard diet and cutting you could hit a comp later this year
i say go for it
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I think I'm just scared to get my feet wet...LOL...plus a have a few weak points I need to bring up. I wanna step on stage and BLOW away the competition!!!!
 
Conan don't make nonsense and stop complaining about yourselves you are fucked HUGE and your arms well there aren't arms they are GUNS.
Post a better pic of yourselves and COMPETE
 
Yellowbomber said:
Conan don't make nonsense and stop complaining about yourselves you are fucked HUGE and your arms well there aren't arms they are GUNS.
Post a better pic of yourselves and COMPETE
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i will post pics in about 8 weeks when my cutting cycle is over
 
Conan69, you are a young man. You are also huge. I'm sure that if you want to get up on the stage, you'll be able to do it. Best of luck to you.
 
Uhhh...supergirl, I'm not sure some of those links would be helpful, as they are for natural athletes. We're in a different league here. I agree with the NPC stuff though.
 
Dr.X said:
Uhhh...supergirl, I'm not sure some of those links would be helpful, as they are for natural athletes. We're in a different league here. I agree with the NPC stuff though.
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lol.. oh yea.. all the contestants are sooo natural.. LOL i just watched skip lacour and tito raymond compete in the npc team universe LOL soooooo natural..
Nice thought though Dr.X
 
Try to be just skin and muscles and watch what happen.
You can keep size or loose seriuos size....have great simmetry(more then now)or have really bad one.But you have to be really cutted to see what goes and what don't

For the rest I don't understand your measure...I think your very tall and this could be the only limit to you.

Keep on!
 
daaaaaamn...you are only 22? fuck, i gonna be 22 soon and i am not anywhere close...i gonna go kill myself now
 
TheBear...a show a few months ago in ann arbor, what show was that...I goto almost all the michigan shows and I have not heard of any in ann arbor...I have heard of them in Jackson, East Lansing, Kalamazoo, Grand Rapids, Detroit, Warren, Flint, and Novi....let me know!

Conan...do not worry about your waist...ok...here is the deal...for "ideal" symatry(sp) your lat spread should be 15" or more bigger around than your waist. I think you have that covered...your arms, neck, and calves should all measure the same, but most beginers do not have the calves to match their arms. The rest is density, you have it, thickness, you have it, and conditioning, and you can definatly acheive it...as for dieting, start 12 weeks out...diet really slow and you will save more muscle...I have competed in four shows and I WILL goto the Junior USA's next year;)
The only thing that you have but have not pulled out is your self confidence...only you can find it...

I wish you luck and if you need any help let me know...
 
Damn you`re younger than me!
OK Conan, you have to visit Russian and train here for 8month before tha show on cheapest gear on earth.
If you`ll be training with me you`ll definitely win! Lol
:D :D :p :D :D
 
conan! go for it if it feels right,i will wait two more years,not enuff heavy yet,must get to 280 lbs first,and i will be there next summer,good luck:angel:
 
At your size and w/ a young age you could hurt the scene. I don't recommend trying to go pro. Many don't make it. See all that money Fred Bigot spent and not make it until 39 years old. those young guys in the pros are going to put a beating on him then he'll retire. Orville Burke on the other hand made pro at a older age, I strongly believe that he'll do good at pro level, you saw that 1st place he just took.

Unless you really have your heart into it, it's up to you. I see that the money isn't good unless you're a top contender. Peace and good luck to you.
 
i see guys in the audience that are bigger than the guys on stage all the time. i think you are one of them. get outta that seat and get on stage. work on widening your delts and your lats and your waiste wont matter. get that bf down again you fat bastard.
 
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