Going Broke!!

[gettinripped]

Can someone tell me the absolute bare bones I need for a 'var cycle around 60mgs ed for 8 weeks?? I mean to tell you, I've been reading here like crazy, the more I read the more I find I need. I've ordered my Tylers, flaxseed oils, ON pro complex, getting the dextrose for pre and pwo, r-ala's..... jesus, when does it end?? I mean shit I could spend several thousand dollars and I havent even started. Who says we need all this additional supplementation?? What did Arnold and those old school guys do?? Guarantee that they didnt buy 10 million additional products for there cycles, shit they didnt even count macro's!!

anybody with opinions please feel free to post, especially experienced var users. what did you take in addition to??

k for good responses.



also will be my 1st cycle
180lbs.
5'10"
13-15% bf
30 yrs old
got nolva for pct

 

[silverbackn]

Um....var and food.

 

[Its All Genetics]

all those are extras..do u really need them..?well thats up to you. if u wanna make the most out of ur juice, u wanna make sure ur giving ur body extra essential items, and more of them than usual cause juice in a sense allows ur body to synthesis things more than normal. how imortant is ur liver to u...? for me its pretty important, so i like to run milk thistle. milk thistle has been proven to help your liver.


i guess it just all depends on you, but for me in this bulking stage im at right now, i ask myself this....

what difference does it make with how much juice im on, if im nott gunna eat like a mofo and give my body extra calories to turn into muslce...

just my 2 cents

 

[jacked clown]

I have seen several interviews where bodybuilders have said they have never bought that additional stuff because they dont have the cash.

 

[gettinripped]

hey silver, you've ran var with nothing but food?? i'm game.

genetics, my food intake will be clean and in check. i've got my tylers on the way, the liver is definately important to me too. i'm talking about all the other shit people are recommending. r-ala, tribulus for libido, etc...etc..

appreciate the feedback.

 

[ortiz34]

I agree, I just shelled out $350 on PCT and anti-e's. Never mind the cost of a cycle and the FOOD!

 

[endeavour]

Var, winny. Oral, inj.
The more the var, the more shredded my wallet gets. Right now my wallet is sub 2% bf (bucks fat).

 

[Stainless_Steel]

Yeah you spend just as much for pct and meds to avoid sides as you do for the gear, but imo it's worth it. If you are gonna do something, do it right. Don't have ass it!

 

[ortiz34]

Yeah you spend just as much for pct and meds to avoid sides as you do for the gear, but imo it's worth it. If you are gonna do something, do it right. Don't have ass it!

Roger that bro.

 

[Its All Genetics]

hey silver, you've ran var with nothing but food?? i'm game.

genetics, my food intake will be clean and in check. i've got my tylers on the way, the liver is definately important to me too. i'm talking about all the other shit people are recommending. r-ala, tribulus for libido, etc...etc..

appreciate the feedback.

to be honest i have never really run a real cutter cycle so i cant give u advice on the r-ala. or how to eat when on it or nething like that. sounds like u have the eating in check though..good shit.. ill let someone else pick up on the cutter supplements, but i think if u eat good foods u will get most of the micro -macro stuff you need.

sometimes buying all that shit will just give u expensive piss, cause ur body (no matter how anabolic it is because of the juice) can not use all the extra stuff, and ull just piss it out, in other words ur wasting ur money. on cycle ( pretty much all bulkers cept my first 6 week low dose prop cycle) i run these supplements. i get them at walmart and they are very cheap

milk thistle
multi-vitamin
multi-mineral
b-complex
b-6 ( only when i run deca and soo for tren)
flax see oil
and whey protein.


i agree with u alotta stuff like the 'essential aminos 'tabs and some of the other b.s. they have out there is just a money maker and although they may help slightly. its not worth the money.


i have run trib in pct and notice that it does help with libido a little bit, but before you buy it wait and see how ur body re-acts to the var, ur libido may not go down..

hope all this helps.. didnt wanna seem like an asshole bout the "what does ur liver mean to you" but i guess when it comes to my liver i will spend the money on milk thistle cause number one its proven it helps and number 2, its a major organ lol. i guess other people may not agree

 

[Joe Stick]

exactly what he said ^

 

[Joe Stick]

***** *** ******** *!@!@!@***

dude u cant discuss prices! better edit your post before you get bombed!

 

[silverbackn]

hey silver, you've ran var with nothing but food?? i'm game.

genetics, my food intake will be clean and in check. i've got my tylers on the way, the liver is definately important to me too. i'm talking about all the other shit people are recommending. r-ala, tribulus for libido, etc...etc..

appreciate the feedback.

I have never ran var before to be honest, I am poor. It's test for me. I would take the tylers at a minimum. Then like I said, hit the food. You don't need all the other stuff to grow!

 

[777-9311]

ortiz34 just posted above what he spent on PCT so wtf?

dude u cant discuss prices! better edit your post before you get bombed!

 

[Joe Stick]

you can't discuss prices about GEAR. dunno y its just the rules...

 

[Big_Joe]

Can someone tell me the absolute bare bones I need for a 'var cycle around 60mgs ed for 8 weeks?? I mean to tell you, I've been reading here like crazy, the more I read the more I find I need. I've ordered my Tylers, flaxseed oils, ON pro complex, getting the dextrose for pre and pwo, r-ala's..... jesus, when does it end?? I mean shit I could spend several thousand dollars and I havent even started. Who says we need all this additional supplementation?? What did Arnold and those old school guys do?? Guarantee that they didnt buy 10 million additional products for there cycles, shit they didnt even count macro's!!

anybody with opinions please feel free to post, especially experienced var users. what did you take in addition to??

k for good responses.



also will be my 1st cycle
180lbs.
5'10"
13-15% bf
30 yrs old
got nolva for pct

Remember when you were in High School and they told you to study hard and get good grades so you could go to a good university and then get a good job? Well now you know why.

 

[chefbone]

Um....var and food.

We have a winner!!!!!

 

[thelion2005]

Sent you a PM

 

[richspc]

You didnt mention how long you have been using, how many cycles? My first cycle on Anavar was 15mgs.ED, 6 weeker, gained 6bs. kept 6lbs. 2nd cycle D-bol 20mgs.ED 8 weeker gained 15lbs. kept 6lbs.Used only Milk Thirstle for liver and Tribustus for libo

 

[gettinripped]

1st cycle. planning on running 40-60 ed for 8 weeks.

 

[heavy_duty]

15mg ed and you gained? that's amazing. minimum these days is 40 ed x 8 weeks.