GOING BACK TO PH's -- 1-Test help???

[ThePizmo]

Ok Ive typed this like 3 times and for some reason it wont post so this will be a little shorter and sweeter....


OK, just got done with a fina cycle...Or HALF a fina cycle is a btter way to explain it. My nuts started to hurt bad like i was getting kicked in the junk, so i was told to stop. regroup. Try again later. I fucked up rule #1 -- READ READ READ. Anyway, Ive never had any trouble with PH's, and Im very knowledgable with them, so i think im going to stick witht hem for a little while longer.


First, Im doing a huge PH stack for my next cycle)6-8 weeks). 1-test/4-ad/somethig else....


I wanna do as follows:
-Start off with 600mg per day of 1-test, end cycle at somewhere between 800-900mg per day.
-Stack with 600-900mg per day of 4-ad
-I also wanna stack these with something esle. I dont know what yet. i was thinking something like deca-test (http://www.anabolics.cc/products.html) or something i dont know. Now, i dont wanna use this misc. product in the proportions im using the 1-t 4-ad with, just a little something extra to throw in there.
BY THE WAY -- Im at the point where i dont give a fuck about the money involved...Ever get so pissed at yourself, npthing is good enough so you just stop caring about the money?? LOL

Questions are:
1) VPX 1-test is very expensive. They only give like 20 servings for $80. At the dosages im going to take it, that will last me like 10 days. Where else can i get a QUALITY 1-TEST for a good price??? Also, should i go transdermal or oral??
2) Like i mentioned before, I wanna stack the 1-t and 4-ad with something else. Not in HUGE dosages but just a lil something extra to throw in..I mentioned deca-test....Any other thoughts of something else OTHER than deca-test??

Thanks guys...


PIZZZZZZZZ

 

[KoRn01ForLife]

transdermal is better than oral, as the absorption is better, and the orals, in the doasge levels you want to be in, will hurt your liver. As for your other q?'s, I have no ideas.

 

[bigmodean]

search around on google,i have found VPX for much cheaper then at there website,what is a brand of transdermal?havent heard of one listed?

 

[d3track]

you are gonna have a lot of shit in your system
if youre thinking deca-test, why not do that woth maybe some winny or d-bol?
that's my opinion

 

[fsupat70]

you say you are so knowledgable about PHs and you ask a basic question like what should you take an oral or transdermal?? is that a joke?? and you dont know where to find quality 1 test?? hmmmm, mes think you dont know chit

 

[Shark01]

The hottest thing going right now is Methyl 1-Test......get it while it lasts.....

 

[thetorch2k1]

methy 1 test is supposedly blowing away regular oral as well as any transdermal 1test out there.....however the sides can come faster and worse(very toxic) and i don't think there is much real world reasearch except for guys taking it as we speak on various boards. It seems that only taking 10mg /day is sufficient, although some are taking 20 and some are even taking 30mg which isn't too smart IMO yet b/c nobody knows for real how safe this stuff is yet.


legalgear.com has it, 10mg tabs but i forgot the price.

 

[ThePizmo]

Hey fsupat70....This pic is for you....

As for everyone else...Thanks..
The reason im asking, IS BECAUSE Ive taken 1-t and 1-ad before, MANY times, but only ergo and VPX -- BUT never in such high dosages. Thats why im asking if anyone knows of any OTHER brand i should look into. Also...the question on oral and trans is becuase ive only taken oral, and i know alot of people that have taken trans, and we've gotten pretty much the same gains. Thats why i was asking an OPINION on what you think is better for this cycle.

Ill lookin into the methyl test...

Thanks alot guys..

Pizzzzzzz

 

[Shark01]

You guys really need to rethink the "Methyl 1-T is toxic" BS

There are guys on this board taking 100 mg of really dark side oral shit (D-bol, winny, Anavar, Primo, etc.), and you are scared of 10-20 mg for a 2 week cycle? Do everyone else a favor......if you are scared of it, fine do something else, but don't spread false shit about it.

Bruce Kneller (Brock Strasser of Biotest fame) has been selling Methyl products underground for years, so when he says they aren't toxic, I'd listen

Anabolic minds has about a dozen people on it right now. I think the average gain is 7-8 lbs over two weeks, and since it is 1-T there isn't any water gain.

 

[thetorch2k1]

Why wouldn't u think that it is not toxic though?

there's no real proof that it is or it isn't just yet though, right? So with that said, think of something like methyl tren (the 25mg tabs), isn't that something that is extremely toxic even at a low dose? Okay, now since u obviously read the anabolic minds boards, you must know that the closest comparison they make there to any type of aas is.........u guessed it, tren.

and yeah the guys on chemo's site are taking it, and most are taking 10-30mg/day.....some aren't noticing sides BUT some have had to stop taking it b/c of the sides, so I guess I'm not the only one spreading 'false shit'.

All i'm saying is that nobody knows for sure yet about the toxicity, but the gains most are having are amazing for only a 2 week run. Hopefully this stuff doesn't get pulled too fast either.

 

[Shark01]

I think we are talking about two different things. Yes, there are side-effects. This has similar sides to both D-Bol and Tren because it is just as powerful........and I NEVER thought I'd be saying that about a legal product (legal for the short term anyway).

Now toxicity is another thing all together. I claim (and others will back it up) that a small daily dose of M 1-T creates FAR less stress on the liver than a night out drinking.......and look at how often people do that . The liver is the only organ capable of self-generation, and it takes decades of abuse.

Bottom line, a great product with a number of possible side effects..........in short, a performance enhancing steroid

 

[ThePizmo]

Holy SHIT!!!
I hope the $240 Methyl-t isnt what you guys are talking about....thats fucking expensive as hell!!

 

[jaketparker]

Holy SHIT!!!
I hope the $240 Methyl-t isnt what you guys are talking about....thats fucking expensive as hell!!

You must have looked at the wrong product, Thats for four bottles of it. 1 bottle is 80 bucks and you get 80 10 mg tabs. 10-20 mg's a day.....one hell of a deal for the results if you ask me...stock up while you can.

 

[ThePizmo]

LOL thanks jacket...

I was hoping it was a mistake....

So, I should take the meth instead of the 1-test?? Like i said i want this cycle to be HUGE....Im not familiar with methyl...If you read my previous post, I was saying how I want to take 600mg to start and 800mg to finish of the 1-test....
If i DO go witht eh METHYL...what dosage do you suggest?

Piz

 

[ThePizmo]

OK i just bought 2 bottles of the methyl test ----

If anyone has any experience with this stuff feedback would be great. Like i said i want this to be a huge cycle, and im seeing you guys saying becuase of its potency 10mg should be good. I wanna run a MINIMUM of 4-6 week cycle (with 4-ad stack and 6oxo post cycle). Should i go between 20-30 mgs?

again, thanks..

PiZzZzZzZzZ

 

[Shark01]

This stuff is really powerful, so you need to ramp up to see which sides affect you, if any. I advise people to start out with 5 mg (yes, 1/2 pill) for a couple of days, then go up to 10 mg to finish out week #1. Then in week #2, decide if you want to go to 15 or 20 mg. No way you should go to 30 mg the first time around, trust me the gains will be unreal at the lower dosages. Make sure your diet and training are in order. Be sure to eat at maintenance level or above and plan on increasing your training volume to take advantage of superior recovery.

And if you don't go beyond 2 weeks, you don't have to do any PCT since you won't have supressed natual production.

Actually, M 1-T is very economical considering how effective 20 mg per day is. A bottle of 80 caps will get you 40 days, which is enough for 3 two week cycles.

 

[d3track]

isn't meth 1-t 17-aa active?

i haven't done a lot of research on it yet

i would higlt suggest looking into getting milk thistle, ect. you can get some good stuff at the af store

just my suggestion, and let us know how it goes

 

[ThePizmo]

Will do guys....thanks for all the help!

Ill keep ya updated!

Piz