GH input requested

[supersonic007]

New to this board. Been training for 15 years, have done a few cycles with very good results. I just started on 2IU of hGH ED, I had a blood test done showing low levels of hGH.
My weight is 215
my bf is 16%
age is 30

If anyone knows or can advise:

1. What kind of results can i expect in 6 weeks at this dose in regards to overall bodyfat reduction?

2. Why do some people say that you see dramatic results but only over say, six months time? how would that still be dramatic. I have had dramatic results with T3 and Var in the past, say over 3 to 4 weeks, and good results with e/c/a stack, say over 10 to 12 weeks.
My diet and excercise program have become very solid: - low carb, high protein, moderately low fat, which always works well for me.

3. What is the best way to manipulate dosage timing for optimal fat loss? I read in muscular development to get a glucometer and inject when blood glucose levels are pretty low, probably in the morning. However, is it better to split the dosage into am and pm?
even though the body produces most of it's GH at night, shouldn't the extremely high levels provided by a pm dose be excellent for fat mobilization, provided that blood glucose levels are fairly low, or is there a threshold where more hGH doesn't make much difference?

Thanks in advance for answering one, all or none of these questions!

I also plan to site inject into the same spot every time and find out once and for all how good a spot reduction technique this is, and will post results hopefully with good photos. I do have stubborn fat deposits that are hard to loose even when i've been down to 7% bodyfat.

 

[bowling ball nutz]

New to this board. Been training for 15 years, have done a few cycles with very good results. I just started on 2IU of hGH ED, I had a blood test done showing low levels of hGH.
My weight is 215
my bf is 16%
age is 30

If anyone knows or can advise:

1. What kind of results can i expect in 6 weeks at this dose in regards to overall bodyfat reduction? wouldnt notice anything in 6 weeks, would take at least 6 monts to a year or more

2. Why do some people say that you see dramatic results but only over say, six months time? how would that still be dramatic. I have had dramatic results with T3 and Var in the past, say over 3 to 4 weeks, and good results with e/c/a stack, say over 10 to 12 weeks.
My diet and excercise program have become very solid: - low carb, high protein, moderately low fat, which always works well for me.

3. What is the best way to manipulate dosage timing for optimal fat loss? I read in muscular development to get a glucometer and inject when blood glucose levels are pretty low, probably in the morning. However, is it better to split the dosage into am and pm?
even though the body produces most of it's GH at night, shouldn't the extremely high levels provided by a pm dose be excellent for fat mobilization, provided that blood glucose levels are fairly low, or is there a threshold where more hGH doesn't make much difference?it is most often taken in the am and pm after training, those times are lows in our natural production and gh has a short half life of only 2 hours

Thanks in advance for answering one, all or none of these questions!

I also plan to site inject into the same spot every time and find out once and for all how good a spot reduction technique this is, and will post results hopefully with good photos. I do have stubborn fat deposits that are hard to loose even when i've been down to 7% bodyfat.

 

[supersonic007]

So in your opinion, it is not really a good fat burning strategy to use unless 6 month to a year?
my question is really, what kicks in over time to make it a good method of fat reduction? I mean, one would see dramatic results with caffeine and excercise alone over 6 months.

 

[genarr3]

I'm in my sixth week of Jinotropin at 4 IU ED, split into two injects. 2 IU in the morning, the other in the afternoon or after workout.

After 6 weeks I'm starting to notice a dramatic change in bodyfat/muscle ratio. So stopping after 6 weeks would likely be when things just started rolling.

"even though the body produces most of it's GH at night, shouldn't the extremely high levels provided by a pm dose be excellent for fat mobilization" - No. Because it will suppress your bodies own GH production. You'll only have the synthetic GH working for you.

 

[NJjuice22]

No. Because it will suppress your bodies own GH production. You'll only have the synthetic GH working for you.

exactly, that is the whole reasoning for taking it post workout and a good 4 to 5 hours before bed time, supposedly if the synthetic gh is out of your system by the time you go to sleep your body will continue to produce its own during sleep, however if you were to take it closer to sleep the body would detect all that gh and shut down its own production( as you can see, that is not the most scientific explanation but you get the point).

 

[bowling ball nutz]

So in your opinion, it is not really a good fat burning strategy to use unless 6 month to a year?
my question is really, what kicks in over time to make it a good method of fat reduction? I mean, one would see dramatic results with caffeine and excercise alone over 6 months.

yes better fat burning can be attained with a good diet and cardio and clen or ephedra etc. there are many threads on the subject if you search fat loss and gh

 

[liftr486]

i got some jintropin from a respected source and i used it two days ago...within two hours after the shot, i noticed i was gettin hard "down there" almost like i had taken a via or cia...i did test it w/ a preg test and it came out not pregnant...i also started dostinex the same time, do u think the hgh could b hcg or wat could b causiing this, i dun wanna cont if it is hcg cuz im tryin to recover.... thanx

 

[kbrkbr]

Super, I think you'll find it uncomfortable to inject in the same place everyday. I understand your motivations and have attempted the same thing myself. Problem is, the injection spot becomes hard and sore if you use it exclusively. You can effect the same test by alternating injections between two or three spots. It won't be but a few shots before you'll start seeing the little dents.

 

[genarr3]

i got some jintropin from a respected source and i used it two days ago...within two hours after the shot, i noticed i was gettin hard "down there" almost like i had taken a via or cia...i did test it w/ a preg test and it came out not pregnant...i also started dostinex the same time, do u think the hgh could b hcg or wat could b causiing this, i dun wanna cont if it is hcg cuz im tryin to recover.... thanx

I'm assuming you recieved it in the complete box with the water etc . . .
I've not heard of any Jin fakes going around. Considering this happened after one shot you may be jumping the gun alittle bit. Sometimes we get chubbies for no apparent reason. Well me at least.

 

[JP@Ironology]

i got some jintropin from a respected source and i used it two days ago...within two hours after the shot, i noticed i was gettin hard "down there" almost like i had taken a via or cia...i did test it w/ a preg test and it came out not pregnant...i also started dostinex the same time, do u think the hgh could b hcg or wat could b causiing this, i dun wanna cont if it is hcg cuz im tryin to recover.... thanx

Did you get red welts and swelling several hours after injection? Ankeo and Jin caused this for several bro's. First the area would turn hard to the touch and then swell into red welts. Using bac. water bought else where solved this problem for some but not all.

 

[JP@Ironology]

i got some jintropin from a respected source and i used it two days ago...within two hours after the shot, i noticed i was gettin hard "down there" almost like i had taken a via or cia...i did test it w/ a preg test and it came out not pregnant...i also started dostinex the same time, do u think the hgh could b hcg or wat could b causiing this, i dun wanna cont if it is hcg cuz im tryin to recover.... thanx

Disregard my comment. Mis under stood you.

 

[supersonic007]

Thanks to all for your input, I have done numerous searches and have researched GH for years, but these were the real answers and insight I was looking for. Karma to all who gave good insight.

my plan for this 12 week cycle will be:

Two weeks of 2IU ED of hGH on a low carb, high protein diet, 1IU In the morning, and 1IU post workout- thanks to the combination of advices solidified here.

my plan for this current cycle is as follows:

2 weeks of 1IU GH ED combined with T3(average 50-75mcgs ED) and Test 1500 mgs/week (arimidex added throughout test)
2 weeks of T3(average 25mcgs daily) and 2000mg Test/week
1 week of 12.5mcg T3 and 2500mg test/ 20 mgs Ox
2 weeks of 3000mg Test/ 40mgs Ox
3 weeks- taper back down off Test and Ox and begin HCG at appropriate time

arimidex will be dosed in an equal ratio to mirror Test amount requirements

all stats and results will be fully documented, but I may add in Yohimburn ES, and possible some clen at the end of the T3

My theory is that with the right caloric manipulations, T3 can be used for extreme fat loss, and if followed by a strict mass cycle using Test and Ox, your natural T3 levels can be allowed to go back to normal with a slow downward taper.

this is sort of an improvement on a cycle I did 2 years ago that worked rediculously well for me. I am not as afraid as some to lose mass (temporarily), and always prefer to cut and then bulk (its so much more fun to grow when your ripped, than to shrink a little after being big, but a bit smooth, and right now i'm very smooth- 16%)
A divorce can really fuck up your training during the winter!

 

[DJ_UFO]

damn genarr keep us updated in you progress and gains!
good luck.