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Getting gyno while on letro

oh heck yeah PGF2a causes nausea, try using it sometime. PGF2a made me cramp up and I kept throwing up until I was dry. Had a client of mine who decided on his own to use P2a and ended up trying to throw up while his diarrhea was happening - horrible situation.

I don't get why people want to suffer, just use dostinex and forget about the bromo sides.
 
as noted previously- bromo does have sides, but its very cheap, its effective and at low doses sides are not an issue for most (especially if taken before bed as opposed to during the day.

though still reccomend SELEGILINE over both of them, it well suited for continual use and has a lot of other benefits.
 
It is an issue, bromo has bad sides even at low dosages. Dostinex is a far superior product with no sides.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
yes you are..

LOL! too funny building your internet persona, I'll leave you to it.

macrophage69alpha said:
just to clarify, used PGF2a before this forum even existed - that would be before you were a member.

"sure" you have ;)
 
When I do searches on SELEGILINE I dont see much in reference to prolactin reducing, seems like its more of an anti-depressant or brain functioning improving drug.

Im currently running cabergoline to boost my libido post cycle ( 0.5mg E5D ), it took a couple weeks to feel anything but Im pretty damn horny now.

But I wonder if SELEGILINE is a better choice for this.
 
1: Endocrine. 1999 Jun;10(3):225-32. Links
L-deprenyl inhibits tumor growth, reduces serum prolactin, and suppresses brain monoamine metabolism in rats with carcinogen-induced mammary tumors.ThyagaRajan S, Quadri SK.
Neuroendocrine Research Laboratory, Kansas State University, Manhattan, USA. [email protected]

Previously, we have reported that L-deprenyl decreased the incidence of mammary tumors and pituitary tumors in old acyclic rats. The objective of the present study was to investigate the effects of L-deprenyl, a monoamine oxidase-B (MAO-B) inhibitor, treatment on the development and growth of tumors and on the metabolism of catecholamines and indoleamine in the medial basal hypothalamus (MBH) and the striatum (ST) of rats bearing 7,12-dimethylbenzanthracene (DMBA)-induced mammary tumors. Female Sprague-Dawley rats with DMBA-induced mammary tumors were injected (sc) daily with 0.25 mg or 5.0 mg of deprenyl/kg BW or the vehicle (saline; control) for 12 wk. Tumor diameter, tumor number, body weight, and feed intake were measured every week of the treatment period. Serum PRL and the concentrations of catecholamines, indoleamine, and their metabolites were measured by RIA and HPLC, respectively. Treatment with 5.0 mg deprenyl decreased the tumor diameter, tumor number, and serum prolactin (PRL) level. Although the body weight increased in all three groups, the body weight gain in the 5.0 mg group was smaller than that in the control and 0.25 mg groups. Deprenyl treatment had no effect on feed intake. The concentrations of dihydroxyphenylacetic acid (DOPAC) and homovanillic acid (HVA) were decreased in the MBH and the ST, and the concentration of 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid (5-HIAA) was decreased in the MBH of deprenyl-treated rats. Treatment with 5.0 mg deprenyl enhanced the concentrations of norepinephrine (NE) and serotonin (5-HT) in the MBH and in the ST, and the concentration of dopamine (DA) in the MBH. These results suggest that the suppression of the development and growth of DMBA-induced mammary tumors by chronic deprenyl treatment may be mediated through alterations in the synthesis and metabolism of catecholamines and indoleamine in the MBH and inhibition of PRL secretion


1: Clin Neuropharmacol. 2003 Jul-Aug;26(4):193-5. Links
Selegiline in the treatment of sexual dysfunction in schizophrenic patients maintained on neuroleptics: a pilot study.Kodesh A, Weizman A, Aizenberg D, Hermesh H, Gelkopf M, Zemishlany Z.
Lev Hasharon Mental Health Medical Center, Pardessiya, Israel.

A double-blind, placebo-controlled crossover study was undertaken in 10 neuroleptic-treated male schizophrenic outpatients to assess the effect of coadministration of selegiline 15 mg/day for 3 weeks on their sexual dysfunction. Selegiline was not found to be effective in improving any domain of sexual functioning despite a significant decrease in prolactin levels (P < 0.05). This study emphasizes the complex nature of sexual dysfunction in schizophrenic-treated patients and the need for placebo-controlled trials for this condition.





cabergoline is better established for its sexual effects

1: Int J Impot Res. 2006 May 18; [Epub ahead of print] Links
Cabergoline treatment in men with psychogenic erectile dysfunction: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study.Nickel M, Moleda D, Loew T, Rother W, Gil FP.
[1] 1Clinic for Psychosomatic, Inntalklinik, Simbach/Inn, Germany [2] 2University Clinic for Psychiatry 1, PMU, Salzburg, Austria.

The effectiveness of cabergoline in 50 men with psychogenic erectile dysfunction was investigated in a 4-month, randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind study with validated psychological tests, and prolactin, follicle-stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone and testosterone serum levels. Cabergoline treatment was well-tolerated and resulted in normalization of hormone levels in most cases. In the cabergoline-treated group, significant interactions between prolactin and testosterone serum concentrations were observed. Erectile function improved significantly. Sexual desire, orgasmic function, and the patient's and his partner's sexual satisfaction were also enhanced. Cabergoline may be an effective and safe alternative agent for men with psychogenic ED.International Journal of Impotence Research advance online publication, 18 May 2006; doi:10.1038/sj.ijir.3901483.


however as with selegiline effect on prolactin was found in schizophrenics, but no improvement in sexual function reported (though they may not have found that relevant)

: J Clin Psychiatry. 2004 Feb;65(2):187-90. Links
Comment in:
J Clin Psychiatry. 2004 Oct;65(10):1429-30; author reply 1430.
Cabergoline treatment of risperidone-induced hyperprolactinemia: a pilot study.Cavallaro R, Cocchi F, Angelone SM, Lattuada E, Smeraldi E.
Department of Neuropsychiatric Sciences, San Raffaele Scientific Institute Hospital, Vita Salute University Medical School, Via Stamira D'Ancona 20, 20127 Milan, Italy. [email protected]

BACKGROUND: D(2) blockers, including the atypical antipsychotic risperidone, induce hyper-prolactinemia in a significant number of patients treated. The endocrine and sexual side effects related to hyperprolactinemia significantly impair tolerability and compliance in patients, including those with a good response to risperidone. This pilot study aimed to evaluate the efficacy and tolerability of a low dose of cabergoline, a D(2) agonist, in the treatment of risperidone-induced hyperprolactinemia. METHOD: Nineteen male and female DSM-IV-defined schizophrenic patients who were clinical responders to risperidone but were suffering from symptomatic hyperprolactinemia were treated with cabergoline, 0.125 to 0.250 mg/week for 8 weeks. Plasma prolactin level was assessed at baseline and at the end of the study. Data were collected from January 2002 to April 2003. RESULTS: After cabergoline treatment, the mean decrease in plasma prolactin levels was statistically significant (p <.05) for the total sample, and 11 patients showed remission of clinical signs with prolactin values within the normal range. No side effect was observed or reported, and the patients' psychopathology was unchanged. CONCLUSIONS: Results suggest that low-dose cabergoline treatment of risperidone-induced hyperprolactinemia may be safe and clinically effective in a relevant number of patients.
 
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