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Get ready to kiss what little rights you have left bye-bye

PBR said:
deconstructing america....if Bush is re-elected our work force will be highly impacted for the worse....this will ensure that the gap between rich and poor grows steadily further and futher apart....the middle class will not exist...when this happens- as throughout history shows-there is a REVOLUTION-and civil uprising....these laws, bills will pertain to "us", as WE will be the new terrorists.....

That time traveller guy said we would be in going into a Civil War this fall. From the Iraqi soldiers I have talked to, I would not be surprised when, if Bush gets reelected, that they form their own army and raid Washington.
 
brasil is looking better and better...

ill take crime and poverty in brasil over being yanked up in the night for speaking for freedom against my goverment. and then my family cant talk about my arrest or disclose any information about whats happened!?!?

fuck this
 
gonelifting said:
You don`t like it, move the hell out of the country.

Don't mind if I do.
 
The sad thing is, Bush and Co are not the real danger.

Bush, Asscroft etc, all know what these laws are intended for. The patriot act and Patriot 2 have been on the books for quite some time now. There have not been rampant abuses, and the Supreme Court ruled against the government in the Padilla case.

These types of laws are never abused by their creators.

Subsequent governments are the abusers. A future President or leader (any party) will look to these laws as a means of getting something done, silencing opposition, or doing something otherwise questionable.

The other problem is law enforcement. There is almost NO connection between arrest and what happens in court. This is by design; courts are designed to provide redress of grievances, and they do.

However, merely arresting someone throws their life in disarray, it is very expensive, and it changes behavior even if the courts vindicate the person.

Some examples of both of my points:

1. The Interstate Commerce Act and RICO. Both of these had narrolwy defined roles when introduced into legislation. The ICA has been used to allow the federsal government osme sort of oversight into anything and everything it wants. RICO was designed to arrest people like John Gotti; today it is used against street level drug dealers. (as if Tyrone on the block in Compton knows what Racketeering is)

Neither of those laws was misused by their creators. But in time, all were misued to achieve an end. Imagine the potential for Patriot Act abuse. And it will happen. But it won't be George Bush and Co. doing it.

2. The arrest of NBA star Allen Iverson, who was charged with all kinds of Patriot Act - derived crimes. Mr Iverson makes $20M per year, so he hired a lawyer and the charges were dropped. This is just; Iverson is no terrorist. Could YOU fight the government if this happened to you?


The enemy is not the government. It is not Bush or Ashcroft or Kerry or any of those people. The enemy is INFINITE IGNORANCE: uninformed people who jump to conclusions and listen to any voice they hear.

Alex Jones is a jackass. Instead of fostering reasoned discussion of the laws government is passing, he is yelling like the Town Crier to advance some sort of agenda,

Instead of discussion, we get "Bush is the Fuhrer" (yeah right, some of you don't even know what years WW2 happened) and the ATF is the SS.

Clearly, this is not correct. But by shouting about it WITHOUT understanding these laws or their purpose or the history of this type of behavior, you only make the problem worse.

Our doom will not come at the hands of the president. it will be wrought by a population of morons in a nation that took the bold step of granting Power to the People.
 
government death squads...civil unrest..snatching you up at night...civil wars...blah blah blah.

if you people actually believe all of this non-sense, i hope you are all strong supporters of the second amendment, in every possible way, so you will be ready when 'the revolution' starts.

:rolleyes:
 
p0ink said:
government death squads...civil unrest..snatching you up at night...civil wars...blah blah blah.

if you people actually believe all of this non-sense, i hope you are all strong supporters of the second amendment, in every possible way, so you will be ready when 'the revolution' starts.

:rolleyes:


youll be the first to die in.... 'the revolution'

blind men don't do well in life and death situations like that.
 
BO-DEN said:
youll be the first to die in.... 'the revolution'

blind men don't do well in life and death situations like that.

you really need to stop reading whatever propaganda you are currently being brainwashed with. please come back to the land of the sane. it's not healthy.
 
poink and BODEN proving that as i said above IGNORANCE is the greatest enemy.


Took 3 minutes to see proof of my post. Wow.
 
p0ink said:
you really need to stop reading whatever propaganda you are currently being brainwashed with. please come back to the land of the sane. it's not healthy.

little brother.

you seem to read every american news (neo-sheep-media-bullshit) paper online. and cry about the bullshit lies youve read on this very website everyday.

and you have the audacity to speak about propaganda?

you have alot of nerve.

ps.get off the GOP nutz im republican but my life dosnt revolve around my political status. and i dont have time to belly ack about the liberal this, and libreral that.. when their are real problems without solutions

BO-
DEN
 
"2. The arrest of NBA star Allen Iverson, who was charged with all kinds of Patriot Act - derived crimes. Mr Iverson makes $20M per year, so he hired a lawyer and the charges were dropped. This is just; Iverson is no terrorist. Could YOU fight the government if this happened to you?"


Jackass or not he does serve a purpose.. sometimes you have to ignore the messenger and just listen to the message.

In spite of hugge amounts of propaganda, hatred and yes.. even ignorance.

There is some truth to many of his messages.

Its up to the reader to look into what he is sayign research it and find out for yourself.

But Matt, keep this in mind. If it werent for people like him.. soem of these things would NEVER be heard in any form twisted or not.

And Ill settle for peopel getting a crazy message with a werid mix of fantasy and truth over no message at all.

At least it will get people thinking and in reality peopel like Alex Jones and many others.. tahts all they are trying to do.. they just realize that without being on the fringe .. most people will not be interested enough to read.
 
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