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GET A BUNCH OF KARMA!---Just read this article about Oxymetholone (Anadrol)

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Ok people, in order for this to work, everyone must participate. All you got to do is read the article and post a reply. After you have done this, you must distribute as many karma points to anyone on this thread. I will do the same to whoever posts. And when you distribute karma, don't forget to type in your name, so the person recieving the karma can give you karma back! If enough people participate, you could get quite a few karma points. Why am I doing this you ask? Isn't this cheating the system? Well, not really. We're just having fun here, so this should be taken lightly. Anyway, the system aparently has a bug in it, causing us all to get grey karma points, so in a way, we kinda deserve some of these.

That being said, let me say one more thing; please read this article! It's a good article stressing the risk involved in taking Anadrol (A-bombs). The only part that made me laugh was when the author wrote that his friend gained 62 pounds in 1 month, lol.

And don't forget to keep coming back to this post to continue to distribute you karma, so you can continue getting karma!
Fire away!



Oxymetholone
By Robi Babic

The following article was motivated by some of the trends currently manifested in our sport. It seems that success (competitive or otherwise) in the sport is always associated with enormous use of various anabolic agents, especially the more exotic ones. One such substance is oxymetholone (trade name Anadrol, Anapolon, Hemogenin).

The usual gym intro goes like this: it is the strongest oral anabolic steroid, expected gains border on science fiction (a pound a day or more), side effects are serious (possible liver cancer), and it is most certainly necessary for competitive success (it literally creates champion bodybuilders). Such statements are more or less poppycock.

First, let's explore its legitimate medical use. Oxymetholone was originally used by patients suffering from anemia. It stimulates the production of erythropoietin, and is extremely effective, although relatively toxic. It is the only steroid which is conclusively linked with cancer. While available, it was also very cheap. In recent years, it has become rather obsolete, as a new drug named EPO was developed for treating conditions related to anemia. EPO is a favorite of professional bicyclists, and is also used by high-level amateur and professional bodybuilders during contest preparation. Pharmaceutical companies prefer to distribute (one might even say PUSH) EPO rather than oxymetholone, as the former generates greater profits. So, the legitimate production of oxymetholone has dropped considerably, in some parts of the world it has ceased altogether. This situation has created problems for a lot of athletes, and the lack of availability is probably a causative factor behind the hype surrounding oxymetholone.

Athletes (recreational and professional) usually praise substances that are not readily available. In most cases, however, the hype does not hold water. Yes, these hard-to-find drugs do produce results, but laws of supply and demand makes them very expensive. Then there is a problem with fakes. High demand exceeds supply by far, so the floor is set for crooks to make a buck and naïve, mostly recreational athletes make it even easier for them to succeed in their dirty job.

Some of my acquaintances are perfect examples of such trends: one competitive bodybuilder cannot afford growth hormone, so its absence from this guys stack is the reason why he cannot make a breakthrough in his development. Another one uses everything he can get his hands on. He went even so far and gained 28 kilograms (62 pounds) in 32 days (against my advice - using shotgun approach), and then had the nerve to call for my advice when the side effects became too serious. Very few people can endure such rapid weight gain without ill effects. Needless to say, his gain was mostly water and upon cessation of the cycle (if it can be called a cycle), his weight quickly evaporated. This just goes to show you that FAST is going to get you nowhere. Unquestionably, anadrol is an effective steroid for sheer mass, but it is not my top choice for several reasons. First, it is not suitable for stacking. Anecdotal reports suggest that when anadrol is used on its own (monotherapy), side effects should not cause substantial problems (unless you are genetically sensitive individual). There is the flu-like effect and water retention (possible hypertension), maybe some acne, headaches, hair thinning, and possible gynecomastia but all these side effects are cosmetic and do not severely affect the health of the user. The picture changes once anadrol is part of a stack. Liver function is usually greatly compromised (hepatitis, jaundice), and if the individual decides to stay on the compound for extended periods (or has high frequency of using the compound), permanent pathological liver changes are possible, including liver cancer (hepatocarcinoma). Water retention related hypertension is increased, and risk of gynecomastia is drastically increased as well. All these side effects usually accompany stacks containing anadrol, sometimes regardless of the cumulative dosage of steroids per unit of time (this phenomenon is odd, as the side effects seem to be of similar intensity, using either 500mg of steroids per week, or 2000mg or more of steroids per week, as long as oxymetholone is part of the stack). Consequently, I do not suggest that my clients use anadrol, at least not in stacks. It also has to be pointed out that anadrol should not be in the drug arsenal of the recreational bodybuilder, this drug has significant enough health risk that it should be reserved for top bodybuilders and athletes. Forget reports that Chris Duffy (in his pre-porn days) used 10 anadrols daily, on top of 2000mg testosterone weekly, in addition to his purported massive use of clenbuterol. Such quantities are vastly exaggerated (or he is a genetic miracle, or had extremely well designed all-round protection program against side effects while using such stack, or both).

Another problem I see with anadrol is its availability. A healthy amount of mysticism is wrapped around anadrol. Most athletes that do not have the access to the drug firmly believe that should they somehow attain a sufficient quantity of the drug, their bodybuilding progress would change overnight. Often times, failure to acquire thus drug is the reason they attribute their lack of meaningful progress in their physiques. Most of the oxymetholone on the black market is fake anyway. And even if one is lucky enough to discover a reliable source of legitimate drug, its price is hardly worth its effects. Yes, you will gain mass, but not a pound or more daily for the first few weeks on the drug (as reported in several popular publications). The same results can be attained by using injectable testosterone in upwards of gram quantities weekly, and injectable testosterone, even a dosages of 1 g a week, if far less toxic than using anadrol.

Lets discuss anadrols strength. Oxymetholone has very poor receptor binding ability, so it has to be manufactured in 50mg per unit (tablet) to achieve the desired therapeutic effect. A comparison (milligram per milligram) of oxymetholone with methandrostenolone (DIANABOL) would reveal a similar strength and anabolic effect per each milligram. Keep in mind, that for every tablet of anadrol (50mg), you would have to ingest 10 tablets of dianabol (5mg). This quantity probably negates any financial benefit on the part of dianabol, but at least accessibility of dianabol is not a problem. At such quantity side effects of dianabol would be comparative to that of anadrol. On a mg per mg basis, Another problem with anadrol is its yo-yo effect (fluctuations in bodyweight). Once the compound is discontinued, the weight-loss is rapid, affecting the psychological as well as physical status of the trainee. This in turn drives the athlete to prematurely engage in another unnecessary or counterproductive cycle.

To avoid such problems, one should implement a strong injectable androgen (usually testosterone), upon cessation of monotherapy with anadrol. The testosterone should then be replaced with a high dose mild anabolic in conjunction with heavy anti-estrogen therapy and finally, its dosage should then be tapered off. This strategy will ensure that most of the gains will be kept in transition and consequent "off" period.

Questions and comments:
[email protected]

THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE DOES NOT ENDORSE THE USE OF PHARMACOLOGICAL SUBSTANCES FOR ERGOGENIC PURPOSES. THE ARTICLE IS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. THE PRESENTED VIEWS ARE THAT OF THE AUTHOR AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSTRUED AS A MEDICAL ADVICE.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR: I HAVE NO FORMAL EDUCATION IN THE FIELD OF PHARMACOLOGY AND MEDICINE. I HAVE, HOWEVER, WORKED FOR SEVERAL YEARS IN PHARMACIES AND HOSPITALS (AS PART OF TECHNICAL STAFF), ENABLING ME TO STUDY THE MOST RECENT ADVANCES OF MODERN PHARMACOLOGY AND MEDICINE BY HAVING ACCESS TO VARIOUS HARD-TO-FIND ACCURATE LITERATURE. I AM ALSO A STEROID USER WITH SEVERAL YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

Copyright 1999 Jason Meuller and Anabolic Extreme. This material may not be copied, reproduced, or transmitted without the express written permission of the copyright owners.
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CB38AC said:
why do people bother with androl anymore...with fina/dbol/test/ect ect out there whys it worth the risk and up and downs...my friend took it blew up came off right and only kept 1/5th the wieght

you're right bro...it's not worth it.
good karma to ya...

P.S. don't forget to give good karma to us!
 
i don't care what the articles say, i've used it with great success and i will use it again, just like any other drug, if its abused its worse than usual. But i have never had any problems with the drug and i have used three anapolan's per day for up to five weeks long before.
 
MaxBiceps said:
Everyone from Marx down will have to wait till tomorrow to get karma. I just ran out:( . I'll hit you guys up for sure.

yeah, me too guys..i will be back to hit you guys up.
 
i'm not real sure where i stand on this one. i kind of want to try it and have been thinking about how to use it in my next cycle.

of the ppl i know that have used it, they all have said to stick with dbol. mostly because of how they feel while running it.

of the ppl who respond to this post who have run anadrol, i'd like to hear what you have to say about it. is it worth it or would you recommend sticking with dbol?
 
pump it said:
anyone know if its worse to take 1 anadrol a day, or to take 10 dbol a day?? i would think the 10 dbol would be worse but im not too sure.

Not sure what the average dose of anadrol per day is, but if it similair to Dbols, then I would think 50mg of A's would be worse than 50mg of D's. The article puts too much emphasis on the fact that you would need 10 dbol's to equal 1 anadrol. But this info is misleading. It doesn't really matter how many pills you take. What matters is how much of the drug your taking. And price discredpencies are different too, now that ** came out with 50mg tabs of Dbol's.
 
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Re: Ok, ok karma for everyone

MaxBiceps said:
One thing I don't agree with the article is that they claim anadrol to be just as effective as d-bol mg per mg.

Anyone share my view that this is complete trash??


They say the effects are simlair, not the same.
 
Anadrol's bad rep is undeserved. If used correctly, for short periods in a proper stack, bloating and gyno are not problems. Use it for a few weeks to start a long cycle, with winstrol, and you will be very happy. I have use dbol and anadrol since the 1970's....today's dbol is not the same. I have to eat the damn things all day to get the same results as a couple real anadrol.
Hey, when you want to be sure......Abomb it.
 
Well i hit as many people as I could with karma then it said I used it all up for the day ....get to you others later.:D
 
I believe that article is a bit out of date.

I did not read all of it but since AIDS and HIV Anadrol-50 is a popular drug again.

Not too hard to come by, just a little expensive. But if you compare the price of 1x50mg anadrol tab to 10x5mg dbol, mg for mg, you are probably looking at around the same price or cheaper for A50.
 
i have had great luck with anadrol

If you watch your diet, you will not experience any more bloating than with any other steroids. There are a lot of myths floating around re androl.
 
Never used a-bombs and dont plan on using them. Gaining 20 pounds really quick is great but loosing it is even worse. Would rather do sust and Eq maybe some fina and at least get big and hard and be able to keep most of my gains.
 
holy shit there are a lot of replies. Since I can only do 20/day it will take me a while to hit all yall up. but i will eventually. Don't forget to hit everyone else up too!
 
WTF....got grey karma from ya GearedChupaCabra. YOu got 500+ posts...the system is messed up but I'll hit you back later when I can give out some more GCC. Its the thought that counts:D
 
come on people...don't just post and excpect to get karma...if you want karma, you must give karma...just sign your name so that person can hit ya back. :D
 
Thats what I usually do. I'll start the cycle out with about 4 wks of a's and continue test for another 6 wks. You seem to keep more that way.
 
combined a-bombs with T400 got good size, cutting weight now
will see how much I retain. Plus I never really go off cycle always
keep some test in system. 47 years old seems to help my overall
feeling of well being. good karma to all......


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I wouldn't have a dog that wouldn't wag his own tail!:p
 
just in case someone didnt know if you have under 100 posts dont give karma. i recieved from two people on this thread that showed up red and i know one of them is cause of lack of post. that is my understanding of it anyways.
 
Used it twice with no bi's just gains but used only 100 mg ed and 250 testoviron ed and 200 mg deca (norma) ed for about 60 days worked very well.
 
Blow this karma thing out of the water Nice idea Audio!

karma is coming, but starting from above my name going backwards

bass

Left off on liquid muscle on the 2nd page, !st on the list tommorrow...... I'm all out!
 
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After you post you need to give everyone above you some karma until you run out!
bass
 
I say screw all what they have to say. My brother took anadrol solo for his first cycle and it did him wonders with little or no sides. That is what I am about to do. I agree with not stacking it though
You got karma from me bro
 
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