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The Shadow had editted two of my threads here and added anextra question to the poll.

Please PM for proof, I have a screenshot and apart from that I am sure you can check your logs to see he did it.

I thought it was funny at first but I think he "overused" his powers and when I confronted him about it via PM his reaction pissed me off and therefore I am not laughing anymore.

Do you MR spellwin think that mods doing this is ok?

I am interested on your view.
 
FYI Allon, the Mods are all trying to outbid each other right now to see who gets to log in as Gregorio Spalding and give you a reply.
 
BLuepeter, I am surprised with your reaction.

I wonder if the mods will close this and hope the george does not notice it.

George = EF daddy
 
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LOL
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at the pms I got pissed at.....





post the"screenshot"s orb


Ill give you K if you do
 
crak600 said:
FYI Allon, the Mods are all trying to outbid each other right now to see who gets to log in as Gregorio Spalding and give you a reply.

Fine, that would be great, how would you feel about a mod you have beef with editing your posts?
 
Allon said:
The Shadow had editted two of my threads here and added anextra question to the poll.

Please PM for proof, I have a screenshot and apart from that I am sure you can check your logs to see he did it.

I thought it was funny at first but I think he "overused" his powers and when I confronted him about it via PM his reaction pissed me off and therefore I am not laughing anymore.

Do you MR spellwin think that mods doing this is ok?

I am interested on your view.
pot calling the kettle black
 
Allon said:
Fine, that would be great, how would you feel about a mod you have beef with editing your posts?

if someone was editing my shit and not telling me they were, i'd consider all of them a bunch of them spineless bitches. plain and simple. too many people hide behind computer screens.
 
The Shadow said:
LOL
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at the pms I got pissed at.....





post the"screenshot"s orb


Ill give you K if you do

Fuck your K as if I care dude.

I will post them as soon as george answers.

I think what you did is unacceptable dude, you have a screw loose.
 
crak600 said:
if someone was editing my shit and not telling me they were, i'd consider all of them a bunch of them spineless bitches. plain and simple. too many people hide behind computer screens.

Exactly, and that is what happened. Twice.
 
Allon said:
Fuck your K as if I care dude.

I will post them as soon as george answers.

I think what you did is unacceptable dude, you have a screw loose.

You don't care? So why did you just red me for essentially telling you to relax and cool off with all the shit?

Also, aren't you the one that's repeated ad nauseum on here that it's just the Internet and nobody should take things seriously? Those statements seem rather ironic now don't they?
 
bluepeter said:
You don't care? So why did you just red me for essentially telling you to relax and cool off with all the shit?

Also, aren't you the one that's repeated ad nauseum on here that it's just the Internet and nobody should take things seriously? Those statements seem rather ironic now don't they?

You stupid cunt.

I don't really care, but it pisses me off that someone edits my posts... yes. I do not think I am contradicting myself dumbass.

BTW, you are not really a cunt.
 
Allon said:
You stupid cunt.

I don't really care, but it pisses me off that someone edits my posts... yes. I do not think I am contradicting myself dumbass.

BTW, you are not really a cunt.

You're getting pissed off and a little personal with me. You really want to go there maing?
 
i agree, allon, while annoying, is harmless... no need to ban, every reason to bomb.
 
I see no one cares that he editted my posts, but instead think I am a whining dipshit and bomb me.


GRRRRRR, you guys are absolute assholes!
 
4everhung said:
I'm going black soon
nothin but love man! welcome back, i thought it sucked that you were suspended
 
Allon said:
I see no one cares that he editted my posts, but instead think I am a whining dipshit and bomb me.


GRRRRRR, you guys are absolute assholes!
i care i think it was assholeish of him. i hope everything works out perfectly for you :rose:
 
He is in the process of being de-mod-ified.

Thanks for the support.

I wanted to create a poll for my supporters but the shadow would have editted it and ruined it for me.
 
I am outta here now.

Good night everyone, it was fun!!!

George, I will appreciate your answer here.
 
damn allon's taking some serious K damage
he's listing hard to starboard
 
Bro, it is very childesh of him but what are you going to do? He is a mod for a reason. The admin obviasly doesnt give a fuck otherwise all the bullshit that goes on here would have been stoped a long time ago. Do you notice how they they keep lowering your karma? Pathetic childesh games. These are the reasons I refuse to get a platinum membership.
 
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yeh somebody ripped 2500 points off my hits... oh well, I guess the mods don't like to be owned so they hit me with the only thing they can.

reminds me of the bum squad.
 
I will never go plat after this outrage unless something is done about it.

I bet they will delete this thread and it will be forgotten

This is an american site right?

"The land of the free, home of the brave"

Do me a favour.
 
JustJacked said:
Bro, it is very childesh of him but what are you going to do? He is a mod for a reason. The admin obviasly doesnt give a fuck otherwise all the bullshit that goes on here would have been stoped a long time ago. Do you notice how they they keep lowering your karma? Pathetic childesh games. These are the reasons I refuse to get a platinum membership.


You have given out too much RED Karma in the last 24 hours, try again later.
 
Allon said:
yeh somebody ripped 2500 points off my hits... oh well, I guess the mods don't like to be owned so they hit me with the only thing they can.

reminds me of the bum squad.
it's actually come in 1K increments
 
allon allon allon allon allon
 
Ban Allon. Not because I have anything against him but I'm fucking tired of seeing his blacked posts all over the place.
 
perkele said:
Ban Allon. Not because I have anything against him but I'm fucking tired of seeing his blacked posts all over the place.
thats the smartest thing ive heard all day
 
I can't beleive how many people prefer to have me banned than investigate the fact that shadow edited my posts.

Perkel, what a dissapointment.
 
Gee golly gosh wow. Shadow or Allon, Shadow or Allon? Whatever shall I do? What a tough call!


Not.
 
Gee digger, what a tough call? He edited my posts and added an extra question to the polls twice.

Real tough call. Do you approve what he did? Do you?

Bump for George.
 
oh, and bumped 2k off my karma, not that I care, I just beleive in justice.

The shadow is meant to be a mod, but he abuses his powers.

You fine with that digger?

Lets see what George (the mod of mods) has to say about this.

Will he find an excuse for shadow?

BUMP.
 
digger said:
Gee golly gosh wow. Shadow or Allon, Shadow or Allon? Whatever shall I do? What a tough call!


Not.

Nobody needs to be banned. But something needs to be done about the bullshit on here. There are dozens of people on here who refuse to go plat for these reasons. These skinny little punks runnin around calling themselves the 'bomb squad'. Mods fucking with peoples threads. This site is obvialsy not here to make money or you have no concept of business. Just my 2 cents. :)
 
JustJacked said:
Nobody needs to be banned. But something needs to be done about the bullshit on here. There are dozens of people on here who refuse to go plat for these reasons. These skinny little punks runnin around calling themselves the 'bomb squad'. Mods fucking with peoples threads. This site is obvialsy not here to make money or you have no concept of business. Just my 2 cents. :)


Thank you, at least one person here seems to have a sense of justice and is looking at this realisticly and not backing the shadow just coz he is a mod.

Funny that you are a fellow Israeli. Any Americans here not too scared to say what they think about the actions the shadow took?
 
My karma hits were up to 4500 approx b4 this happened.

That is a lot of karma for someone who keeps getting bombed.

People find me entertaining.

those that complain about me are obviously enjoying the drama I was causing, which even lestat could see was a big joke, the karma wars are like an internet game, nothing personal.

Anyone who does not find me entertaining can ignore me, which is easy as I am blacked out.

The shadow abused his MOD power.

I called him out and people act like I am a tool, why? Coz it scares them to see someone stand up to the powers that be. Som,ething there panzy asses have never experienced, even here on a internet forum, LOL, yet they use the word geigh so often.

Fight the power!
 
JustJacked said:
Nobody needs to be banned. But something needs to be done about the bullshit on here. There are dozens of people on here who refuse to go plat for these reasons. These skinny little punks runnin around calling themselves the 'bomb squad'. Mods fucking with peoples threads. This site is obvialsy not here to make money or you have no concept of business. Just my 2 cents. :)
There is truth to the statement that pissing people off wil keep them from going Plat.

I offered to buy 1/2 a Plat for a member last night. I have not gone Plat due to the width and depth of some attacks that were either initiated or condoned.


Oh...the black outs are obnoxious as well. OK for a day maybe.
 
Yep. Time for my "don't gloat" speech....

Aw, frack it. Go ahead.
 
Testosterone boy said:
There is truth to the statement that pissing people off wil keep them from going Plat.

I offered to buy 1/2 a Plat for a member last night. I have not gone Plat due to the width and depth of some attacks that were either initiated or condoned.


Oh...the black outs are obnoxious as well. OK for a day maybe.


I would love to support the site by going plat. I enjoy EF, but there is too much nonsense going on here. Too much immaturaty. The mods(not all) seem to do whats best for them and not the site. If they regulated all the bullshit then there would be many more people going plat. People come on here and see what goes on they never want to come back and then they tell their friends what they thought. Very bad for business.
 
JustJacked said:
I would love to support the site by going plat. I enjoy EF, but there is too much nonsense going on here. Too much immaturaty. The mods(not all) seem to do whats best for them and not the site. If they regulated all the bullshit then there would be many more people going plat. People come on here and see what goes on they never want to come back and then they tell their friends what they thought. Very bad for business.

The bullshit is what keeps me coming back. :heart:
 
So people get banned for saying what they think?

I see the admin researched a reason to ban Allon. He used the word Cunt. hmmm.

At least digger got his excuse for banning him, "excuse"
 
FrequentFlyer said:
So people get banned for saying what they think?

I see the admin researched a reason to ban Allon. He used the word Cunt. hmmm.

At least digger got his excuse for banning him, "excuse"


It goes a hell of a lot deeper than.
 
I am going now, no need to ban me again.

I will be back some time, I wonder who sees the injustice here?
 
JustJacked said:
I would love to support the site by going plat. I enjoy EF, but there is too much nonsense going on here. Too much immaturaty.
:whatever: We're not perfect. We don't claim to be. We're just better than any other site of our kind. :)
The mods(not all) seem to do whats best for them and not the site. If they regulated all the bullshit then there would be many more people going plat.
The mods aren't perfect either, but may I suggest you're working on incomplete information? The mods and the admins talk to each other. We compare notes.

If a mod gets out of line, the other mods do talk to him (or her) about it. When someone (like Allon) demands that his feelings are equal to their judgment, I don't knee-jerk that "HE'S WRONG!", but he is going to have a burden of proof. Allon's "Shadow edited my post!" doesn't even come close. I'm sure Shadow did -- that's why we have mods. So what? We've asked mods to edit posts whenever possible if the alternative is deleting them, even though deleting them is much easier.
People come on here and see what goes on they never want to come back and then they tell their friends what they thought. Very bad for business.
If I've learned one thing in the last four years, it's never to think I know more about this business than George Spellwin. :)

The fact that you can express yourself without calling people dirty names is a big help. Thanks for your feedback.
 
digger said:
:whatever: We're not perfect. We don't claim to be. We're just better than any other site of our kind. :)

The mods aren't perfect either, but may I suggest you're working on incomplete information? The mods and the admins talk to each other. We compare notes.

If a mod gets out of line, the other mods do talk to him (or her) about it. When someone (like Allon) demands that his feelings are equal to their judgment, I don't knee-jerk that "HE'S WRONG!", but he is going to have a burden of proof. Allon's "Shadow edited my post!" doesn't even come close. I'm sure Shadow did -- that's why we have mods. So what? We've asked mods to edit posts whenever possible if the alternative is deleting them, even though deleting them is much easier.

If I've learned one thing in the last four years, it's never to think I know more about this business than George Spellwin. :)

The fact that you can express yourself without calling people dirty names is a big help. Thanks for your feedback.


The Shadow should not have done what he did. He has a problem with Allon for some reason I dont know. He was abusing his authority by deleting his posts. He has made threads calling Allon out. Quite immature. He can dish it but he cant take it. Its funny how the mods will see all the bullshit and racism directed towards members their not familiar with and they wont do a thing about it, but as soon as someone says anything towards them or someone they know they are right in there using their 'powers'.
 
JustJacked said:
The Shadow should not have done what he did. He has a problem with Allon for some reason I dont know.

Should be pretty obvious that I don't agree with you... but I'm asking him about it anyway, just to follow through. We have had bad mods in the past, and I've personally kicked more than one of them clear off the site. That said, I also think we have a good solid crew working for us right now.

If you have anything new to add, fine; if not, let's move on.
 
jnuts said:
Ha! Somebody has been watching the SciFi Channel :)

Nobody who has a beef with any of the mods is going to win. They are all, obviously going to stick up for each other. Personally I don't care if I get bombed (which is probably what will hapen now I said this) and I don't give a shit about a karma number in the corner of my screen (purely enjoy giving advice, getting answers to questions).

Look how long any Allom thread is. Everyone whether they like him or not, gets some satisfaction out of bombing/insulting/supporting him. If you trully wanted to spite him then you shouldn't respond to any of his posts. The fact that people do, even the ones who profess "hate", shows that he has his place. You might say that you want him banned, but I guarantee, when you have noone to bomb or insult, you will miss him. The fact that you stripped his karma points makes him even more dangerous to those offended by him. I think you did this to perpetuate the fun and games. Allon, if he ever did give a shit about karma, now is a loose cannon. So what if you ban him, he''ll just return as "Allon mk2" and probably be more insulting. The board has a place for everybody, just like real life. Insults through a computer screen are just that. Who gives a shit.

I hope that the majority of people being "offended" are not being serious, just getting off on waring with Allon (fine), otherwise that is a bit sad. Perhaps you should have a specific insults board, then anyone who is truly offended can just steer clear of that particular board, with any such stray posts being transfered. On another note, some people genuinely do care about karma, and this whole bombing war thing, will most definitely turn SOME sensitive souls off from using the board, or associating themselves as platinum members. If someone wants to bomb someone that they have a personal grudge with, or just that it amuses them, fine. But when people gang up on a member that actualy takes it as a personal attack, then they will be discouraged from using the site. The fact that a lot of people care about karma, makes such "blanket bombings" an obstacle to freedom of speech, as some will be discouraged to speak their mind. I've said this before, but so what if someone insults you in a computer forum. What is the big deal? So what if some one takes a few numbers off the corner of your screen. The trick is to take on the persona of someone who cares in order to perpetuate the activity, and that is exactly what people do. If you didn't have someone like Allon to say things that are daft or controvesial (depending on your viewpoint), you wouldn't have any means by which to launch humourous personal vendettas. If it is your aim to perpetuate the games, you should give Allon 30000 bonus karma points, and watch the mele of angry/funny posts that would ensue. If it is your aim to diminish his presence, then just ignore him. I conclude, that the fact that people reply to his posts/bomb him is proof that they want this kind of activity to continue. Same goes to the mods, if you didn't want this to continue, you wouldn't alter his posts and change his karma score.

The fact that there are so many threads about this kind of thing, means that there is a place on this board for Allon-style activity. If he posted it in other sections, then he should be banned, but he doesn't.
p.s. Has George Spellwin ever logged on? Does he exist, or is he just a pseudonym? Is one of the mods "George Spellwin". C'mon George, if you do exist, please come and give us your input it would be very interesting to hear from you.

p.s. GEORGE SPELLWIN = SO SPELL WINGE ORGE (no y)

p.p.s. I have had 1 bad experience from a moderator - Ulter, he's a knowlegeable guy, but we disagreed about creatine ethyl esther, nothing offensive said, just had differing opinions which we both backed up with reason. Someone posted something on another thread I started saying that they would like to hear Ulter's opinion, to which I repsonded that I found it amuzing because I'd just had a "run in" with Ulter on his thread. He responded by posting that if I wanted to use language like that, he could have me banned. I've given him karma since for some of his input, but I hardly think a mod should go around threatening members with being banned over something so petty.

Final comment, the only thing annoying about bombing, is the fact that your posts get blacked out. I genuinely have a lot of advise to give people regarding physiology training and nutrition. As a contibuting member, it is daft to have information that might help someone blacked out because of childish group bombing behviour. What do these people do, spend all their time looking for people to group bomb who say something bad about them? Most of the time they don't even bother to say anything insulting- it's pointless and stupid. Perhaps they don't have the ability to come at you with a decent comeback, with this group bombing activity being their only outlet. If you do not want to discourage contributing members from logging on and choosing a different board, I suggest you do something about this activity.
 
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