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geico fired me for using roids!!!!!!!
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LftHndPwrHouse
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LOL...Only prop&EQ..to a bb..it might be a small cycle..but its drugs..it could of been 50mg of d-bol..its a drug.
Most places have a "can not be under the influence of any illegal drug or alcohol while on the clock" rule.
It doesnt matter that u were not shooting there..When your on a cycle your using a drug 24/7 because of the half life.. As soon as u punch in "your under the influence while on an illegal drug"
I am not Laughing at you..it sux...Good luck getting another drug. How did they find out? I hope someone didnt ask and u said yes i am..I would of said no..Either they would of tested you..giving you time to resign or found out how much it costs for a roid test and never did it.
Most places have a "can not be under the influence of any illegal drug or alcohol while on the clock" rule.
It doesnt matter that u were not shooting there..When your on a cycle your using a drug 24/7 because of the half life.. As soon as u punch in "your under the influence while on an illegal drug"
I am not Laughing at you..it sux...Good luck getting another drug. How did they find out? I hope someone didnt ask and u said yes i am..I would of said no..Either they would of tested you..giving you time to resign or found out how much it costs for a roid test and never did it.
MiniColemans
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just one more reason you should have used Celltech lol
Sorry to hear that Steve. Sad to say that Prop and Eq might as well have been Cocaine and Heroin, legally. Fair balance isn't it? Drugs that withdrawel will kill you equals one that has more benefits than we even know. Uncle Sugar wasting our tax duckies on whats best for us. Good for us, huh?
little chris
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Why hasn't steve responed to any of our "how did they find out"? questions. I think its cause steve is telling a little fib. There is no way a company like geico who has a very high employee ratio is testing evryone for steroids. It sjust not happening unless steve went round bragging he does them and pissed the wrong person off. My father is and HR manager for a pretty popular company and I asked him if his or companies like that test for roids and he said no not once in the 12 years he's been there. Its too much money and cooperate companies could care less. In fact the way cooperate companies squeeze a person dry they probably like you donig juice to get more out of you.
FatFinaHead
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little chris said:
Finally, an intelligent post. Might have to give you some Karma for that one......................But don't hold your breath yet.
Got to spread it around first......
little chris
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Holy shit fina you mean to tell me you semi-agree with a statement I made. Man everyone turn on cnn apparenty there's breaking news, Hell just froze over.
PrettyboyT7
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That lizard is a freak!!! And his ripped to boot. LOL.
little chris said:
Yep, a large company like Geico is almost certainly not going to be testing 1000's of employees every year for steroids, its just not cost effective.
LftHndPwrHouse
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little chris said:
Agreed 100%..Basically what i was trying to get at!
FatFinaHead
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little chris said:Holy shit fina you mean to tell me you semi-agree with a statement I made. Man everyone turn on cnn apparenty there's breaking news, Hell just froze over.
It's not CNN, it is FOXNEWS..........
Dude, never disagreed with you. I gave advise to someone else and you disagreed with me. You got all bent out of shape because I told someone to exercise there mind. Jeez.
By the way, I know it is spelled STUPID. I was heckeling you.................Just as you were doing to me.
With that said, LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED!
SofaGeorge
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One post and you registered in 2001? Why am I suspicious of this post?
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FREAKZILLA1
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Geico charges too much for insurance. your better off w/o those bastards. 
SofaGeorge
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In order for Geico to even test for AAS... they would have to order a full spectrum panel. That is very expensive and not often used. Normal screening is for THC, opiates, cocaine. They don't even test for methampetamine on a standard panel.
Please, explain why an insurance company that couldn't give a hoot about AAS use would specifically single you out for a full panel test.
Please, explain why an insurance company that couldn't give a hoot about AAS use would specifically single you out for a full panel test.
collegiateLifter
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even if this were true you could appeal and blame it on legal prohormones, 4ad and 1,4 add
bigger faster stronger
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i only have like 12-15 posts i think and i registered in 2001... i read alot... just dont have too much to say, so dont be too suspicious of the guys post count
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Frackal
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It's a federal agent!
Run!
Run!
hayesjones
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fucking liar. YOu happy that you got your attention now
kidvilla
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maybe some of our drug testing gurus can clear the smoke
but from what i've read, im higly suspicious of the credibility (or wisdom) of the post(er) because:
1. - steroid tests are prohibitively expensive to run at random, or on a whole, which only leaves "probable cause" (i know there is a better term for it, but im sure you get my point). There is no other reason other than there was great suspicion that "Steve" was exhibiting very suspicious signs (bloating, aggression to fellow coworkers) that prompted it, or he simply "pissed someone off".
2. - steroid test results (and for that matter, drug test results for substances which can be related to the body's own metabolism, and even equipoise can be argued as a metabolite of a benign substance) are not too hard to discredit with an attorney who specializes in drugtests. I don't see that "steve" would be terminated if he simply let the HR folks he was about to retain an attorney... just consult the steroid lawyer for a couple of hours and the fee will pay for itself in backpay, as i've worked as a paralegal and seen how easily a skilled attorney can turn drug cases into mush.
3. - most drug results do not result in immediate termination. there are many avenues of detour before termination is an option. simply saying "i have a problem" is enough to almost insure an employee does not lose his job, as intervention is a common offering in most corporate workplaces, and steroids are no exception. but before saying any of this, an employee can ask the HR department (if they are ignorant of the risk they are getting in if they immediately terminate you) to hold off on judgment for 48 hours and you can retain an attorney who will "educate" them. this buys you time if the HR folks are the kind to jump the gun, but most departments will hold off on termination if you simply ask them to investigate the results (as legally, they benefit if they verify the results), and this buys you time to retain an attorney. if you have an attorney who is competent, its almost a given that the employee will not be terminated.
im wondering (just wondering) if he's not just in the mood to bash Geico (maybe they raised his rates?), because im sorry if i offend, but i cannot believe this story.
but it does bring up an important point, one which is still well worth remembering.... steroid use should never be for the ignorant (of the chemistry, laws, or psychology of the drug) because as my mother said (and she's a saint),
"when you do something good, you have nothing to worry about, but when you do something bad (illegal), don't delude yourself, do it right, or dont do it at all because it will come back to you"
but from what i've read, im higly suspicious of the credibility (or wisdom) of the post(er) because:
1. - steroid tests are prohibitively expensive to run at random, or on a whole, which only leaves "probable cause" (i know there is a better term for it, but im sure you get my point). There is no other reason other than there was great suspicion that "Steve" was exhibiting very suspicious signs (bloating, aggression to fellow coworkers) that prompted it, or he simply "pissed someone off".
2. - steroid test results (and for that matter, drug test results for substances which can be related to the body's own metabolism, and even equipoise can be argued as a metabolite of a benign substance) are not too hard to discredit with an attorney who specializes in drugtests. I don't see that "steve" would be terminated if he simply let the HR folks he was about to retain an attorney... just consult the steroid lawyer for a couple of hours and the fee will pay for itself in backpay, as i've worked as a paralegal and seen how easily a skilled attorney can turn drug cases into mush.
3. - most drug results do not result in immediate termination. there are many avenues of detour before termination is an option. simply saying "i have a problem" is enough to almost insure an employee does not lose his job, as intervention is a common offering in most corporate workplaces, and steroids are no exception. but before saying any of this, an employee can ask the HR department (if they are ignorant of the risk they are getting in if they immediately terminate you) to hold off on judgment for 48 hours and you can retain an attorney who will "educate" them. this buys you time if the HR folks are the kind to jump the gun, but most departments will hold off on termination if you simply ask them to investigate the results (as legally, they benefit if they verify the results), and this buys you time to retain an attorney. if you have an attorney who is competent, its almost a given that the employee will not be terminated.
im wondering (just wondering) if he's not just in the mood to bash Geico (maybe they raised his rates?), because im sorry if i offend, but i cannot believe this story.
but it does bring up an important point, one which is still well worth remembering.... steroid use should never be for the ignorant (of the chemistry, laws, or psychology of the drug) because as my mother said (and she's a saint),
"when you do something good, you have nothing to worry about, but when you do something bad (illegal), don't delude yourself, do it right, or dont do it at all because it will come back to you"
I work for a CII pharmaceutical manufacturer (with a C I investigational license) and they are required by the FDA to test all employees. A few things I know:
1. AAS are not part of a standard drug test
2. Doing an AAS test is expensive
3. Companies must/should treat all employees equally. You cannot single out the big guy and test him for anabolics without risk of a law suit. If they test one person for anabolics, they usually have to test eveyone and most companies do not want to do this.
4. Even if you tested positive for anabolics the company would have to give you the opportunity to provide a prescription showing that it was given under medical supervision. Remember, FDA approved anabolic steroids are a Class IIIN drug. Even Cocaine and amphetamines are Class II. These can be obtained through legitmaite medical means. If you test positive for THC, that could easily be a Class III prescription medication. Heroine is a Class I drug and cannot be prescribed by any phyician in the US. Botton line is if you test positive and can find a sympathetic MD, you are in the clear. The company cannot make a judgement about the appropriateness of the medical necessity unless it interferes with your work. And even then the American with Disabilities Act would likely require them to assign you to a different job within the company.
Bottom line - I think the poster is full of crap and it would be very unlikely you get tested for AAS use and get fired. Just my opinion.
1. AAS are not part of a standard drug test
2. Doing an AAS test is expensive
3. Companies must/should treat all employees equally. You cannot single out the big guy and test him for anabolics without risk of a law suit. If they test one person for anabolics, they usually have to test eveyone and most companies do not want to do this.
4. Even if you tested positive for anabolics the company would have to give you the opportunity to provide a prescription showing that it was given under medical supervision. Remember, FDA approved anabolic steroids are a Class IIIN drug. Even Cocaine and amphetamines are Class II. These can be obtained through legitmaite medical means. If you test positive for THC, that could easily be a Class III prescription medication. Heroine is a Class I drug and cannot be prescribed by any phyician in the US. Botton line is if you test positive and can find a sympathetic MD, you are in the clear. The company cannot make a judgement about the appropriateness of the medical necessity unless it interferes with your work. And even then the American with Disabilities Act would likely require them to assign you to a different job within the company.
Bottom line - I think the poster is full of crap and it would be very unlikely you get tested for AAS use and get fired. Just my opinion.
oneandthesame
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I'm calling bullshit on this one
I have been doing consulting, traveling the entire US for the last 7 years and have never seen or heard of large companies testing for AAS.
The only way I think he could of been caught is by taking the gear and pins into work and someone found it and turned him in.
If its even true??
The only way I think he could of been caught is by taking the gear and pins into work and someone found it and turned him in.
If its even true??
