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Gas Station Ephedra the same as the old stuff?
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eClenbuterol
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Not the same bro. There is many species of Epherdine I think there is roughly 50 worldwide. I remember the old Mini thins those would really get my heart pumping at the gym. I dunno for sure you should post up the ingridents or google them to make sure.
Big_Joe
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I don't know anything about the ban being lifted but from this thread I think there is some confusion. Ephedrine is a chemical. Ephedra is a plant. The chemical ephedrine can be extracted from ephedra but they are two different things. The best, read purist, ephedrine is synthesized in a lab not extracted from ephedra. The synthesized ephedrine is a snow white powder. The stuff extracted from ephedra is a dirty brown colour.
Strengthdepot
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I remember the old caffeine pills and ephedra pills that were sold at the gas stations were very potent. I am not about them today.
needtogetaas
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nope
eClenbuterol
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Careful on that stuff. My good bro died from them or is what caused his death. 24 and a heart attack o OD either
Well some google research turned up the article below: Ephedra Ban
It seems the FDA banned ephedra in 2004. The ban was lifted in 2005 but only for products containing less than 10mg ephedra alkaloids. The the ban was reinstated in 2006.
So, if gas stations are still selling ephedra they are doing so illegally. What they are selling is surely low dose stuff and nothing like the old hydroxycut. However, if you search online you can still find products conatining ephedrine HCL and sold as bronchodilators for asthma.
Although buying that stuff online could easily put you on a watch list since it's great starting material for a meth lab.
2004: On February 6, 2004, the FDA issues their final rule banning the sale of all dietary supplements containing ephedra in the United States, saying that they posed an "unreasonable risk of illness or injury". The rule became effective 60 days after it was issued.
2005: On April 14, 2005, Judge Tena Campbell of the Federal District Court in Utah overturns the FDA's universal ban on ephedra products as a result of a suit brought by the supplement manufacturer Nutraceutical Corporation, which marketed a lower-dose ephedra product.
The judge ruled that the FDA had come to their decision by doing a risk-benefit analysis, considered inappropriate for supplements under a 1994 law (called the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA)). Also the DSHEA required dose-specific findings to justify a ban and that the FDA had insufficient evidence to conclude that products with 10 mg or less a day of ephedrine alkaloids posed a risk. As a result, products with 10 mg or less of ephedra alkaloids were allowed back on the market.
2006: On August 17, 2006, a federal appeals court upheld the FDA ban on ephedra, overturning the 2005 ruling that allowed the sale of products containing 10 mg or less of ephedra.
The court ruled that the 133,000 page administrative record, which included 19,000 adverse events reports, compiled by the FDA was sufficent to support the inital finding that supplements containing ephedrine alkaloids at any dose posed an unreasonable risk of illness and injury and that the risk-benefit analysis was required.
The FDA stated that no dose of dietary supplements containing ephedrine alkaloids was safe and that the sale of these products in the United States was illegal and subject to enforcement action.
Up until this ruling, many herbal supplement companies marketed low-dose ephedra products containing 10 mg or less of ephedra alkaloids.
2007: Nutraceutical Corporation filed a petition for rehearing in front of the tenth circuit of the US Court of Appeals, however the United States Supreme Court declined to hear the petition.
It seems the FDA banned ephedra in 2004. The ban was lifted in 2005 but only for products containing less than 10mg ephedra alkaloids. The the ban was reinstated in 2006.
So, if gas stations are still selling ephedra they are doing so illegally. What they are selling is surely low dose stuff and nothing like the old hydroxycut. However, if you search online you can still find products conatining ephedrine HCL and sold as bronchodilators for asthma.
Although buying that stuff online could easily put you on a watch list since it's great starting material for a meth lab.
2004: On February 6, 2004, the FDA issues their final rule banning the sale of all dietary supplements containing ephedra in the United States, saying that they posed an "unreasonable risk of illness or injury". The rule became effective 60 days after it was issued.
2005: On April 14, 2005, Judge Tena Campbell of the Federal District Court in Utah overturns the FDA's universal ban on ephedra products as a result of a suit brought by the supplement manufacturer Nutraceutical Corporation, which marketed a lower-dose ephedra product.
The judge ruled that the FDA had come to their decision by doing a risk-benefit analysis, considered inappropriate for supplements under a 1994 law (called the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA)). Also the DSHEA required dose-specific findings to justify a ban and that the FDA had insufficient evidence to conclude that products with 10 mg or less a day of ephedrine alkaloids posed a risk. As a result, products with 10 mg or less of ephedra alkaloids were allowed back on the market.
2006: On August 17, 2006, a federal appeals court upheld the FDA ban on ephedra, overturning the 2005 ruling that allowed the sale of products containing 10 mg or less of ephedra.
The court ruled that the 133,000 page administrative record, which included 19,000 adverse events reports, compiled by the FDA was sufficent to support the inital finding that supplements containing ephedrine alkaloids at any dose posed an unreasonable risk of illness and injury and that the risk-benefit analysis was required.
The FDA stated that no dose of dietary supplements containing ephedrine alkaloids was safe and that the sale of these products in the United States was illegal and subject to enforcement action.
Up until this ruling, many herbal supplement companies marketed low-dose ephedra products containing 10 mg or less of ephedra alkaloids.
2007: Nutraceutical Corporation filed a petition for rehearing in front of the tenth circuit of the US Court of Appeals, however the United States Supreme Court declined to hear the petition.
KenBraggofCarroltonGA
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ehpedrine is synthetic. not the plant extract. you can still get the ephedra pills with the plant extract(lipodrene, stimerex, yellow bullets, yada yada) but if its the extract from the leaves and stems - it is no good. you want the ones with the ephedra alkaloid. 32 species of ephedra exist. the basics-ephedra sinica(ma huang) strongest form alkaloid. ephedra viridis-no alkaloid, stems and leaves. there are the originals out there. there is a legitimate sight but they cost a little. if u can find it.
