the last post could not have been written more perfect, i do not have to type now thank you. get some prop run a proper cycle, one guy could gain 20lbs all lean from it another can gain 4. who knows, all depends on genetics, genetic limit, how close you are to that, cycle history, diet, training, and a bunch of other shit that goes into it. its really not the best question to ask what to expect. maybe what effects to expect, expect to get a bit aggressive from tren, maybe libido issues will arise from it as it is a nandrolone, i never have taken tren cause its so potent so i wont speak on its effects like i know. the test will make you horny and give good strength gains. tren gains are supposed to be the best but as mentioned i have not experienced them.