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Gains slowing or haven't really shown up yet

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im guessing its because you didn't kick-start the cycle.. my first cycle was 500mg sust and i didn't feel it until week 5-6.. now im about to start my second cycle which is exactly like yours btw exept ill kick start with d-bol..
how long will your cycle be??
 
20ss02 said:
No - If you're in a caloric deficit you will not be gaining strength and muscle mass.

For this particular cycle I agree, but if he were using tren, halo, or winny I'd have to disagree. I'm taking in around 2800-3000 cals @ 275 lbs on tren ace ed and im strong as shit.
 
52_21_30 said:
For this particular cycle I agree, but if he were using tren, halo, or winny I'd have to disagree. I'm taking in around 2800-3000 cals @ 275 lbs on tren ace ed and im strong as shit.

Agreed - I made strength gains on 50mg/day of Anavar while consuming 2200 calories per day. However, in his case, insufficient calories = no increase in strength.
 
With the calories you say you're eating and the dosages you're taking, you should beging feeling something, but you have to stay on longer than 6 weeks. Stay on the same dosages for up to 12 weeks and then do a good PCT, and wait at least 2-3 months before you do your next cycle.
 
thegoodfoods said:
protein is at least my body weight in grams. at least 1 1/2 gallons water a day.

should i up my protein?

my last cycle was 6 weeks long. i only waited 4-5 weeks then started this cycle. could that be why? did i not get enough of a down time?

yes. on cycle 1.5-2g/lb is where you should aim for

water intake is decent (depends on bodyweight)

4-5 weeks off when using deca in the previous cycle means that you basically did not even really come off (though likely took enough to at least decently suppress your natural hormones)
 
niv said:
how long will your cycle be??
it's a total of 11 weeks

52_21_30 said:
For this particular cycle I agree, but if he were using tren, halo, or winny I'd have to disagree. I'm taking in around 2800-3000 cals @ 275 lbs on tren ace ed and im strong as shit.
can't wait till i take tren!

macrophage69alpha said:
yes. on cycle 1.5-2g/lb is where you should aim for

water intake is decent (depends on bodyweight)

4-5 weeks off when using deca in the previous cycle means that you basically did not even really come off (though likely took enough to at least decently suppress your natural hormones)
i wasn't on deca my first cycle. it was test e. i understand what you're saying though. i should've waited a little longer. but would that lack of off time from test cause hindered gains this cycle, macro?
 
thegoodfoods said:
i wasn't on deca my first cycle. it was test e. i understand what you're saying though. i should've waited a little longer. but would that lack of off time from test cause hindered gains this cycle, macro?

yes and no, did you make good gains on the first cycle, how about in the interim?

how much test E were you using? did you use an AI? PCT?
 
macrophage69alpha said:
yes and no, did you make good gains on the first cycle, how about in the interim?

how much test E were you using? did you use an AI? PCT?
i made decent gains my first cycle. not extraordinary due to the fact that it was only test e e4d. but yes, 1 1/2 week after the last shot i had 40mg nolva and 3 pumps AIFM ed. during the cycle i used letro for about a week to get rid of sore nips. it worked.

BTW i just came back from the gym and from doing deadlifts i got an INTENSE lower back pump, like never before. and my jogging is obliterated. i get huge pumps in my feet and lower back. i bet these are the pumps i hear about
 
perhaps you just need to give it a bit of time, since your were on.. then came off (sort of) and are now back on again.. as a note- the nolva is probably just now finally out of your system
 
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