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[DaddyX]

This bitch is getting out of control with the red karma thing. She's actually stupid enough to think people give a shit about her red karma.

hahahaha now that were talking karma someone hit me with some green ! only a few more points for another cool dot

 

[GoldenDelicious]

i agree that a lobby group is needed for the reassessment of aas scheduling

i believe that current schedules are out of line in the overall scheme of things.

scheduling should not be influenced by politics. it should be done based on the properties of the drug and its use alone, NOT on what the general (misinformed) public believes to be the truth

how a panel of experts was overruled on this issue is beyond me in this day and age (ok it isnt, but still, its bullshit)

 

[easy]

Karma thread????

 

[mlong23]

Both sides brought up some good points, until it became dumb with all the name calling.

But it would be nice to have this law changed. If there is an organization ever formed I would look to join. It should not be legal to where anyone can go and buy it off the street, but given out by real doctors.

Whats up with all the flaming going on here recently? It seems like every few posts someone is always getting put down hard for no reason other than saying what they think, which is why it is a discussion board.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Re: Stand Up for What is Right or walk away a coward!(Must Read)

Look at how many great citizens here on the board, in our gyms, and in this whole country Juice. There is a lot of us. We are treated like dirt. Just as on all other issues this country is steadily getting worse. People need to stand up and fight for what is right and not go along with the flow. Just as with the whole bulshit 9/11 patriotism /terror CRAP. Its all crap about money and the benefit of the few while taking the lives of so many with no remorse. This is to all the true patriots out there. I propose that at least for the AAS issue we all pitch together a few dollars a month get an organization growing with a solid chief such as Rick Colins to fight for what is right. At first a small action but eventually it could expand to form chapters and units in each city, state, etc. I am willing to sacrifice monetary gains and time for what is right. Are you?

I would be interested to see if any people would like to get involved, instead of just complaining. Its so sad to see many good people geting fucked up, thrown in jail, not being safe, and hiding in the shadows like vermin when they should be safely and responsibly using quality AAS dispensed by medical profesionals in safe setings This just makes me sick to my stomach!

"Give me liberty or give me death" -Patrick Henry

Dude you are fucked up. If you wanna be a junkie and a revolutionary go alone to live under a bridge sticking darts in your ass every day. You are not a good citizen, neither a Patriot. In order to live in peace and harmony we need some laws. Without laws, we can't control perverts like you.

UFO.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

Your line of thought is ridiculous. If there was a value to legalizing drugs I'm sure the government would have done so by now and taxed it like they do on alcohol and drugs. The govenment would make a fortune. Look at Singapore or Malaysia. They have a zero tolerance policy on drugs. There's no rehab or alternative sentencing for drug offenders. They get put to death. Why do think the drug problem in those countries is neglible? If anything laws are too lenient in this country.

completely disagree, on the basis of the Amsterdam example where greater drug freedom actually results in lower use, safer use, minimised criminal activity, and most importantly, maintains personal freedoms

its all nicely documented in a few studies which i could dig up, and is a much much nicer way to go about things that the barbarity perpetuated in some countries

furthermore, i strongly doubt that steroids deserve their current scheduling. the various medical and drug control bodies of the day were actually quite opposed to making steroids as illegal as they are today

 

[slat1]

Even though there was some name calling going around... I have to say that it is good to see that everyone has strong feelings about this topic.
There are so many issues at hand here that they can not all be listed. One problem that was not touched upon is the cost of insurance and how it effects our population as a whole. Health problems attributed to people being obese cost the insurance industry $270 billion last year... that is not a misprint. That cost is passed on to us.
I don't think AAS should be entirely legal yet I do not think you should be a criminal for using them properly. I believe the majority of the people here joined this board to share knowledge and are using AAS safely. What scares me are the morons who don't take the time to learn like we have who would go to extremes causing all sorts of medical problems that would play out in the media. I can see how insurance companies would jack up our premium even farther with out basis due to some uneducated person almost killing themself.
That said... I will continue to use AAS and hope that I never get caught because it would ruin my career. I don't have a solution... I just know there is a problem.
PS. I used to work in the Senate in DC so I know how the good old boy network goes... This would be a long hard battle. I am just glad there are people on this board who would go to war along side me!

 

[GoldenDelicious]

i reckon the way to spin it is to hit up the medical bodies to chip in their 2c next time there is a sheduling review

furthermore outline the cost savings in not having to enforce it from the viewpoint of policing authorities

potentially use drug manufacturers as your sponsors...

then go to war.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Different perspectives are wonderful!

Our government has clearly demonstrated in the past that passing laws and taxes rarely has much forethought, ethics or morals involved. Most of the time it's to feed the outrage of the day, pacify some special interest group or to raise some quick revenue. It doesn't take a lot of investigating to see that there are several hundred thousands of laws on the books locally and federally which have no real value in today's society and are in fact very arbitrary. (e.g. Just spit on a sidewalk in the wrong Texas town, or even sell an adult a dildo there and see just how much trouble you can get into.) These laws are not universal across the US let alone across the world.

The Steroid control act in itself was a politically motivated special interest by a couple of people within congress. Then it was fueled by misinformation, deliberate ignorance of the government agencies own findings and then fueled by a media feeding frenzy of misinformation and wow factor Jerry Springerish hype.

Using an extreme such as in Singapore or Malaysia and the putting to death of people for drugs doesn’t do a thing to bolster the perspective brought forth. Putting someone to death for using drugs is entirely immoral.

 

[Juice Authority]

completely disagree, on the basis of the Amsterdam example where greater drug freedom actually results in lower use, safer use, minimised criminal activity, and most importantly, maintains personal freedoms

its all nicely documented in a few studies which i could dig up, and is a much much nicer way to go about things that the barbarity perpetuated in some countries

Then move to Amsterdam! Also, go ahead and post those studies you referenced. They'd be good for a hoot if they even exist, which I highly doubt. Come on, post them up. Ball's in your court.