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i still think they should be illegal but a just lite lite misdomeonor in every state


in some states it is kinda nasty
 
tiger88 said:
i still think they should be illegal but a just lite lite misdomeonor in every state


in some states it is kinda nasty

i AGREE, if they were legal you could have little 14 year olds popping dbols like candy thinking there gonna be the next ronnie coleman. Majority of society thinks they are worse then they are and that will never change. Im not donating shit, sorry bro but it wont ever work IMO. I also agree with what Dial_tone had to say
 
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And don't let people like DialTone or Tiger, who discourage meaningful action, disuade you. They are born followers. It is like all these people who "experiment" with pot in college (as though they had fuckin' white coats and test tubes instead of fritos and MTV, gimme a break . . . ) and later grow up to say it should be illegal after their use, or say it should be legal, but the "fight is doomed" so they're done caring. . . I think people who are passive and arrested for a personal liberty crime should be punished twice as hard as those caught who are activists. They should be punished once for the crime, and once for hypocrisy. If you do steroids, and don't think these laws should be changed then you must either 1) Think the laws are just, and therefore break just laws with impunity. Since murder at your convenience is not out of the question with this philosophy, you have a low moral fiber and can't be trusted, or, more likely, 2) Think the laws are unjust, but don't think they should be changed for anyone other adult than you. Therefore, you don't really care if law is just or unjust, and can't even be said to be participating as a mature, adult citizen in our republic. Usually, these people are just very immature and don't think beyond the immediate gratification of their cycle. They mostly cry after their first arrest about the injustice of it all . . .
 
tiger88 said:
i still think they should be illegal but a just lite lite misdomeonor in every state


in some states it is kinda nasty
how about decriminalizing it "for personal use." up here, we've decriminalized marijuana. so if you get caught with <15g you get a fine (like a parking ticket, usually they don't even bother with the fine). but above 15g, is a criminal offense.

something analogous for juice would be good.
 
majutsu said:
And don't let people like DialTone or Tiger, who discourage meaningful action, disuade you. They are born followers. It is like all these people who "experiment" with pot in college (as though they had fuckin' white coats and test tubes instead of fritos and MTV, gimme a break . . . ) and later grow up to say it should be illegal after their use, or say it should be legal, but the "fight is doomed" so they're done caring. . . I think people who are passive and arrested for a personal liberty crime should be punished twice as hard as those caught who are activists. They should be punished once for the crime, and once for hypocrisy. If you do steroids, and don't think these laws should be changed then you must either 1) Think the laws are just, and therefore break just laws with impunity. Since murder at your convenience is not out of the question with this philosophy, you have a low moral fiber and can't be trusted, or, more likely, 2) Think the laws are unjust, but don't think they should be changed for anyone other adult than you. Therefore, you don't really care if law is just or unjust, and can't even be said to be participating as a mature, adult citizen in our republic. Usually, these people are just very immature and don't think beyond the immediate gratification of their cycle. They mostly cry after their first arrest about the injustice of it all . . .

Interesting perspective. The bottomline is steroids in the wrong hands is just as dangerous if not more so than rec drugs. I suppose our society should mirror that of Amsterdam and we can put the "Red Light District" right in downtown Manhattan!

Are you saying that if steroids were legal it would someone make a positive difference in our society??? I hope not. I support the President in what he said in The State of Nation speech. Kids look up to professional sports players and aspire to be more like them. I know I did. If the message these ballplayers are sending is that steroids are necessary to achieve that goal what do you think kids are going to do?

Since the "mature" steroid user is in the minority what you and the thread starter are suggesting is assisine. More than half of the members of this very board - "the mature ones" - are completely clueless about AAS and its consequences. Take a close look at some of these threads and posts.
 
Legal doesnt have to mean OTC. They could be controlled through MD's who would then again be able to run proper blood work and prescribe them for muscle growth purposes. This would solve the kid on the street eating dbol problem pointed out. The physician would be the gatekeepers, but more people would be allowed to pass than under the current regime.
 
I think it should be decriminalized in the US like it is here in canada, no real issues with roids,just all the other shit people use like dnp etc that can be fatal
 
It would be better for them to be legal and controlled than for there to be a black market. Kids ARE doing roids, or worse, they're doing junk THINKING they're doing roids.

Prohibition of substances, like most paternalistic laws, always backfires. (Didn't prohibition of alcohol teach us anything? All that happened is that organized crime was able to gain strength running gin...it didn't make anyone sober...it just made some criminals rich...and caused the death or blindness of others when they made liquor--poorly-- in stills.)

I have to admit I'm a little disgusted by the lack of understanding exhibited in this thread. This is NOT what America is supposed to be about. Our founders must be spinning in their graves.
 
wend said:
It would be better for them to be legal and controlled than for there to be a black market. Kids ARE doing roids, or worse, they're doing junk THINKING they're doing roids.

Prohibition of substances, like most paternalistic laws, always backfires. (Didn't prohibition of alcohol teach us anything? All that happened is that organized crime was able to gain strength running gin...it didn't make anyone sober...it just made some criminals rich...and caused the death or blindness of others when they made liquor--poorly-- in stills.)

I have to admit I'm a little disgusted by the lack of understanding exhibited in this thread. This is NOT what America is supposed to be about. Our founders must be spinning in their graves.

You're a moron. Let's just legalize everything! The problem with alcohol is that to this day it's considered "socially accpetable" and before prohibition it was legal. AAS has never been considered socially acceptable and was never legal to possess in this country. Well, I think the laws were different in the 50's
regarding AAS but I don't believe it was ever "legal". People are always pissed when something is taken away from them. They feel entitled. Also, alcohol is physically, mentally, emotionally and psychologically addictive so people would go to greater lengths to get it. That's why prohibition was a joke. Everyone back then turned a blind eye to alcohol including politicians and reformers.
 
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