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Those bastards are suing 405 students at 18 different colleges. I'm one of those unlucky suckers. Looks like I'm gonna have to cough up a few grand to settle with them. They spring this kind of shit on us as finals are approaching too, just so we won't attempt to fight it.

I think I'm gonna have to sell all my cd's to pay for the settlement.

:redhot:
 
yayyyyyy the other rodent is here
 
nycgirl said:
I take it you are anti-copyright law.
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ha. No actually I'm not. As an aspiring musician, I completely respect intellectual property rights and copyrights.

I actually buy shitload of cd's and rip them to my computer for convenience and to copy them to my portable mp3 player. I also like my mp3's to be of very high quality, so I don't bother with the crap rips you would find on the internet. So since I spend a good deal of money buying cd's, I'm selfish about it and tend not to share my music.

I'm not claiming that I own cd's for all the music I have, but for all of the music I've acquired in the past year plus is all legitimate. And the one time I unintentionally leave my entire music library shared, I get nabbed. One lapse and I'm screwed.

What's wrong about this whole thing is that there's no way that I can even attempt to fight it in court because the penalties are so absurd. Minimum fine is $750 per song, max is $150,000. If I try to fight it saying I don't intentionally share my music there's almost no way for me to prove that, and I risk facing millions of dollars in fines. That's why nobody has fought a single one of these lawsuits and everyone has settled out of court.

So I'm going to lose anywhere up to $10,000 which is going to significantly affect my ability to finish the rest of my college career.

I guess at the end of the day copyright law has prevailed and justice has been served with some college kid getting his just desserts.
 
mightymouse69 said:
What school?
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I go to columbia university.

The schools involved are:
Boston University, Carnegie Mellon University, Columbia University, Drexel University, Georgia Institute of Technology, Harvard University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Michigan State University, New York University, Ohio State University, Princeton University, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Rochester Institute of Technology, University of California – Berkeley, University of California – San Diego, University of Massachusetts – Amherst, University of Pittsburgh and University of Southern California.
 
PIGEON-RAT said:
So I'm going to lose anywhere up to $10,000 which is going to significantly affect my ability to finish the rest of my college career.

I guess at the end of the day copyright law has prevailed and justice has been served with some college kid getting his just desserts.
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If another college student shared your music with thousands of other people - and you did not receive a dime - would you feel sorry for that college student?
 
nycgirl said:
If another college student shared your music with thousands of other people - and you did not receive a dime - would you feel sorry for that college student?
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Sure. Because whatever money is extorted from me is not going to any artist. It's going to fund more lawsuits. To claim that I did thousands of dollars in damage to musicians is ludicrous.

And the fact remains that thousands of people weren't downloading from me. The school network would have shut me down long before that would've been possible. A handful of people at most would have downloaded from me in the time I left this shared.

The problem with this copyright law is that it penalizes people for potential abuse, not actual abuse committed. So the fact that I never usually share anything and I'm not a conduit for music piracy is irrelevant, they happened to find music available from me in abnormal circumstances. That's why I'm pissed. In a legitimate justice system I would have some form of recourse to defend myself and plead my case.
 
when I was in fine arts school the professor would come by and rip whatever we were doing right off the easel.Teaching us to Give up the pursuit of this kind of bullshit and live in the moment.Art is free and ever evolving .It lives in everyone.
 
CFZB said:
when I was in fine arts school the professor would come by and rip whatever we were doing right off the easel.Teaching us to Give up the pursuit of this kind of bullshit and live in the moment.Art is free and everevolving .It lives in everyone.
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Hmm. Maybe your prof was an asshole and you should of punk'd him out?
 
nycgirl said:
If another college student shared your music with thousands of other people - and you did not receive a dime - would you feel sorry for that college student?
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shut up, or ban yourself. seriously. Gaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
Don't cop a plea. Fuck that shit about you cant prove you didnt share it. They've gotta prove you did share it. I've had alot of experience with the law. They will try to intimidate you. Don't give in. Serious shit bor.
 
jestros said:
Don't cop a plea. Fuck that shit about you cant prove you didnt share it. They've gotta prove you did share it. I've had alot of experience with the law. They will try to intimidate you. Don't give in. Serious shit bor.
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And if it doesn't work out, post up your sob story.

Its been awhile since we've had some drama around here.
 
Thats what you get for sharing popular songs man.

I download all kinds of stuff - even when I was in the dorms - even when the RIAA was cracking down. Private servers are key too.

Plus, I listen to metal, even the biggest purely metal labels wont prosecute people.
 
EnderJE said:
Sure they willl...its Tom Jones who won't prosecute.
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Metal stays true. Deathmetal, Blackmetal, thrashmetal wont pull a 'metallica' on their fans cause mp3s are a huge way of reaching out to a ton of fans. They make most of their money on tour anyway.
 
I would fight it. Luckily here in Canada the courts ruled that we can use p2p music sharing.

Fuck RIAA. I'm sure there are thousands of university law students that would represent you. If I couldn't find a lawyer, I'd represent myself if I had to. Make them prove that you're doing what they claim you're "potentially" doing. You listen to the music and purchase the cd's after you've heard them. This whole sue the poor ass people who are tired of dishing out money for one f'n song they like on a cd is bullshit. I would fight it to death if I was getting sued and believe me, you could win.
 
juicedmohawk said:
shut up, or ban yourself. seriously. Gaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Uh, no.

I'm sorry -but I'm not going to feel sorry for some college kid that was careless and got caught breaking the law. Also, whether he shared a song or not, the abuse has already been done. What he did is no different than a bootlegger standing on the corner w/ copies upon copies of a recently released movie or cd. Just because he didn't make a sell doesn't mean he did not violate the law. Create a t-shirt using Spellwin's logo, post it on this board - I would be really suprised if you did not get a cease & desist pm in your inbox.


If he is serious and passionate about his case - than he should fight it.
If not, shut the fuck up, pay the fine and next time be more careful.
 
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nycgirl said:
Uh, no.

I'm sorry -but I'm not going to feel sorry for some college kid that was careless and got caught breaking the law. Also, whether he shared a song or not, the abuse has already been done. What he did is no different than a bootlegger standing on the corner w/ copies upon copies of a recently released movie or cd. Just because he didn't make a sell doesn't mean he did not violate the law. Create a t-shirt using Spellwin's logo, post it on this board - I would be really suprised if you did not get a cease & desist pm in your inbox.


If he is serious and passionate about his case - than he should fight it.
If not, shut the fuck up, pay the fine and next time be more careful.
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actually if he only had one copy of each song and they werent shared, he wouldn't have ''multiple copies'' and he couldnt ''rebroadcast'' them if they weren't shared. You don't know the details of the suit. Can you tell me that every single thing he had on his computer that they found was not legally obtained?
 
juicedmohawk said:
actually if he only had one copy of each song and they werent shared, he wouldn't have ''multiple copies'' and he couldnt ''rebroadcast'' them if they weren't shared. You don't know the details of the suit. Can you tell me that every single thing he had on his computer that they found was not legally obtained?
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No, I can't. But if he can, then he should fight his case.
 
PIGEON-RAT said:
Those bastards are suing 405 students at 18 different colleges. I'm one of those unlucky suckers. Looks like I'm gonna have to cough up a few grand to settle with them. They spring this kind of shit on us as finals are approaching too, just so we won't attempt to fight it.

I think I'm gonna have to sell all my cd's to pay for the settlement.

:redhot:
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That sucks dude.

DirecTV started all of this. They were the first and the ones with the most un-substantiated claims. DTV, RIAA, then the MPAA.

The corporations have gone sue-happy. I used to think people suing corporations for everything was just rediculous. Now I think it's exactly the type of shit they will do. It's extortion.

They can't prove anything - and in many DTV cases people are innocent - but none-the-less if you don't pay them You're going to end up paying an attorney even more. And most likely pay them as well.

Fucking assholes. I'm suing next time the roof my mouth gets burnt at a pizza place.
 
funny how all the rich artists (metallica, for example) bitch about p2p, yet the poor less famous artists use p2p to get their music spread out

i will never pay for a download
 
Gambino said:
funny how all the rich artists (metallica, for example) bitch about p2p, yet the poor less famous artists use p2p to get their music spread out

i will never pay for a download
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Hey, Ive never downloaded songs, whats the best way for me to start, Im clueless!! I tried the other day and I kept getting sucked into this loop of free music and then they ended up saying you have to pay for it. I just gave up, it was pissing me off!!!!!!
 
UA_Iron said:
Thats what you get for sharing popular songs man.
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That's the real shame, most of what I listen to is pretty damn obscure, so obscure I'm pretty much forced to buy the cd's anyway since NOBODY is sharing this stuff. And I don't mind that at all because I'm buying the cd's for cheap and the money's going straight to the artist.

But I had a few popular files and that's what I'm getting nailed for, a Journey song, a BOC song and a Godsmack song. I can't even be proud of that.



ChewYxRage said:
Columbia university? Are you in Chi-town?
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Nah, NYC.
 
PIGEON-RAT said:
That's the real shame, most of what I listen to is pretty damn obscure, so obscure I'm pretty much forced to buy the cd's anyway since NOBODY is sharing this stuff. And I don't mind that at all because I'm buying the cd's for cheap and the money's going straight to the artist.
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I FEEL YOU.

Most of my stuff is obscure or independent.......or out of print.

The good part is that you have an easier time finding it used cheap.

In a city as large as NYC, I'm sure youve got a large variety of used cd stores to look through.




DIV
 
crew9 said:
i2hub most likely
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yup. And I never trusted the douchebags who ran it because they were selling off-campus subscriptions. I mean first off, that's a major security hole in what was supposed to be a "safe" network, and second they're trying to profit from a network that had a ton of illegal activity happening on it. Did they really think they weren't going to attract the wrong kind of attention doing something like that?
 
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