Friends an idiot!!!

[Powerlifting57]

He wants to run wini-var 10mg winny/10 mg var per cap( which i think is junk) m-drol and sust 250

He wants to jump start with 4 weeks of m-drol. His cycle will look like this.

Sust 250 @ 500mg wk 1-10wks
M-drol @ 30mg ed 1-4 weeks
winivar @ 60-80 mg Ed weeks 6-10

What do you think? I think his liver is going to DIE!

 

[ConanX]

should be a pretty powerful cycle. Not the healthiest choices of course. Cholesterol levels will not be pretty.

 

[Powerlifting57]

should be a pretty powerful cycle. Not the healthiest choices of course. Cholesterol levels will not be pretty.

I was thinking the same i mean it should produce some mean strength and lean body mass gains...Just at what cost?

 

[wolfman87]

sigh, that's just asking for a stroke or heart attack. if he is dead set and won't change his mind (which it sounds like he's to dumb to listen) i would advise a lot of fish oil and perhaps some lipid stable (i don't have any experience with lipid stable). also he needs to stay away from foods which can by themselves cause high cholesterol.

i just don't get why people are willing to take this chance just for looks. if you're competing then that's a different story and they are probably doing it the safest way possible but still... just for looks? that's just insane to me, i guess i have to much self respect to do that.

 

[micksnowdog]

i did 8 weeks of 50mg var and felt fine, took ai's cycle support and supplemented with flaxseed oil and policsonal. another mate used for 10 weeks with no liver/bp/lipids support and was fine. BUT, better safe than sorry i reckons. why dont you try and talk him into joining needto's underground. best place possible for a newbie, safe cycles with max gains and best pct, cant go wrong!

 

[wolfman87]

it's the mix of winny and var that really devastates your cholesterol. each one on their own are manageable enough. hell i don't see a problem running them both as long as the total dose doesn't surpass a normal dose of just one, but that's not usually the case...

 

[Powerlifting57]

I told him last night that he needed to join. I also told him he could run tren tfo 8 weeks and throw the wini/var in at the end for the last 5 weeks. Mind you this is his first cycle so i really dont want him running 3 liver toxic orals for 10 weeks.

 

[ConanX]

I told him last night that he needed to join. I also told him he could run tren tfo 8 weeks and throw the wini/var in at the end for the last 5 weeks. Mind you this is his first cycle so i really dont want him running 3 liver toxic orals for 10 weeks.

For a first cycle...eh I'd say save all that stuff for a later time and just have him run Needto's Beastdrol. I'm assuming he is afraid of pinning.

Beastdrol puts on quality mass with very little sides.

I did Anavar only as a first cycle. 25mg e/d for 5 weeks. Gained a few lbs and lost fat. Body recomp and strength boost. I looked great and loved it. But if you want mass without bloat, probably Beastdrol.

 

[Powerlifting57]

For a first cycle...eh I'd say save all that stuff for a later time and just have him run Needto's Beastdrol. I'm assuming he is afraid of pinning.

Beastdrol puts on quality mass with very little sides.

I did Anavar only as a first cycle. 25mg e/d for 5 weeks. Gained a few lbs and lost fat. Body recomp and strength boost. I looked great and loved it. But if you want mass without bloat, probably Beastdrol.

He isnt afraid of the needle and he already has the wini/var and the sust. He just wants something else to throw in there and tren tfo is a fairly mild steroid. I told him to just run the wini/var and save the sust for next time or just run the sust but hes all for doing everything and i cant make him run one or the other.

Im just looking for alternatives, maybe i should buy some arginine from bulk nutrition capsulise it and give it to him as m-drol. LMAO

 

[wolfman87]

why won't he listen to people who have experience doing this again? does he honestly think he knows better than the guys on here who have been doing it for years. i'm no expert and that's the reason why i'm on here every fucking day, so that maybe one day i might be able to consider myself one. even the guys who have been doing this for a long time say that there is always more to learn and understand! this guy is a total fool to think he knows better than EF. it's people like this that fuck up and make steroids look bad imhfo.