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Free vs. Total
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Low total may be due to several factors including diet, stress, overtraining and infection. And of course, your body simply not producing enough. Your total should be above 500 and idealy, over 1,000.
Free test is the amount usable. The percentage is stated within a range. The higher the better, of course. Just look at the range.
You also need to know your DHT, which must be kept low within the range.
And your estrogen. Lower the esto and the test rises on its own.
If you are looking for a HRT program, get a complete blood test including all hormone levels and PSA so you have a base.
Your program should include test, HGH and anti-esto.
Fine tone your diet to reduce fast sugar and raise protein.
Your exercise program should be muscle building with a touch of low impact aerobics.
Supplements should include multi-vit, whey, creatine and DIM.
Urologist? Please tell us what happens.
Free test is the amount usable. The percentage is stated within a range. The higher the better, of course. Just look at the range.
You also need to know your DHT, which must be kept low within the range.
And your estrogen. Lower the esto and the test rises on its own.
If you are looking for a HRT program, get a complete blood test including all hormone levels and PSA so you have a base.
Your program should include test, HGH and anti-esto.
Fine tone your diet to reduce fast sugar and raise protein.
Your exercise program should be muscle building with a touch of low impact aerobics.
Supplements should include multi-vit, whey, creatine and DIM.
Urologist? Please tell us what happens.
lanky
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you did not give the units this level was measured in..ie.. ng/dl etc..
It is a little reckless to say a patient needs HGH and an anti estrogen....as for levels(if in ng/dl) average levels are kept at a range between 650-900. but unfortunatly when using testosterone esters(ie..injectible) kinetics are terible. plasma levels can go as high as 1200 ng/dl during the first two or so days, and drop to 400 or so by the last day or two before the need for a new administration of HRT. that is why androgel and other topical/transdermal route's are currently prefered..more stable plasma levels.........most importantly your physician needs to do further testing of your testosterone level (as well of other systems)....one test will not make for a valid diagnosis of hypogonadism....as mentioned by a previous post, there are to many factors at play. Please do not take medical advise from a bodybuilding website, endocrinology journal search please check the box (all endocrinology journals0 when doing your search.. it will give you studies on kinetics, pharmacodynamics or HRT, use in various diseased populations, ..you name it...
It is a little reckless to say a patient needs HGH and an anti estrogen....as for levels(if in ng/dl) average levels are kept at a range between 650-900. but unfortunatly when using testosterone esters(ie..injectible) kinetics are terible. plasma levels can go as high as 1200 ng/dl during the first two or so days, and drop to 400 or so by the last day or two before the need for a new administration of HRT. that is why androgel and other topical/transdermal route's are currently prefered..more stable plasma levels.........most importantly your physician needs to do further testing of your testosterone level (as well of other systems)....one test will not make for a valid diagnosis of hypogonadism....as mentioned by a previous post, there are to many factors at play. Please do not take medical advise from a bodybuilding website, endocrinology journal search please check the box (all endocrinology journals0 when doing your search.. it will give you studies on kinetics, pharmacodynamics or HRT, use in various diseased populations, ..you name it...
thefantom1
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lanky said:
Preferred by who?? By the physicians who prescribe or by the drug companys that sells it?? I disagree with you on it being preferred..It may be preferred in the endocrinology "books". Remember that the topical/transdermal route also tends to raise DHT levels.. I found that 1 weekly injection of 100mg to put levels stable.
I do agree with you that 1 test will not diagnose hypgonadism..several tests should be drawn..however..if someone comes in and has test level of 500ng/dl..would you say he does not have hypogonadism? I would not rule it out...that is if the guy is one of the what I call "High Test Males" which someone who has always had high test levels...around 1000ng/dl or so..all of a sudden his level drops to 500ng/dl..anyway..thats a different discussion
lanky
Well-known member
thefantom1 said:
Ease of administration, greater stability of plasma levels of testosterone...i do agree with you on the dht levels( though the highest dht levels were using scrotal patch administration, other non scrotal gels, creams and patches showed lower dht levels....Speaking generally, it is hard to pinpoint baseline testosterone levels before testicular problems occur. most healthy young men do not get testosterone levels checked unless illness/problems occur. Agreed on the testosterone levels falling from 1000 to 500 ng/dl.. should warant further testing..but then again there should/can/may be, signs and symptoms that the patient would present with. Good insight thefantom1
, the one thing that has been hard differential diagnosis is how to trest borderline hypogonadism, ...there is still much to be learned in andrology research...awesome posting
