freakin muscle milk

[gjohnson5]

Now I will say no as well after actually researching the subject specifically on colustrum supplementation

Effect of bovine colostrum on anaerobic exercise performance and plasma insulin-like growth factor I.Buckley JD, Brinkworth GD, Abbott MJ.
School of Health Sciences, University of South Australia, Holbrooks Road, Underdale, SA 5032, Australia. [email protected]

In this study, we examined the effects of bovine colostrum on peak vertical jump power (VJpeak), peak cycle power (CPpeak), alactic anaerobic work capacity, resistance exercise one-repetition maxima (1-RM) and plasma insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) concentrations. Using a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, parallel design, 51 males completed 8 weeks of resistance and plyometric training while consuming 60 g x day(-1) of bovine colostrum (n = 26) or concentrated whey protein powder (n = 25). Peak vertical jump power, peak cycle power, alactic anaerobic work capacity, 1-RM and plasma IGF-I were not different between groups at baseline (P > 0.33). Peak vertical jump power and peak cycle power were still not significantly different between groups by week 4 (VJpeak: bovine colostrum, 7231 +/- 488 W; whey protein, 7214 +/- 530 W; P = 0.99; CPpeak: bovine colostrum, 1272 +/- 202 W; whey protein, 1232 +/- 208 W; P = 0.99). By week 8, however, peak vertical jump power (bovine colostrum, 7370 +/- 503 W; whey powder, 7237 +/- 481 W; 95% confidence intervals, 54 to 170 W; P < 0.01) and peak cycle power (bovine colostrum, 1400 +/- 215 W; whey protein, 1311 +/- 192 W; 95% confidence intervals, 20 to 61 W; P < 0.01) were significantly higher in the bovine colostrum condition. Alactic anaerobic work capacity and 1-RM increased (P < 0.001), but the increases were not different between groups (P > 0.08). Plasma IGF-I did not change in either group (P = 0.55). We conclude that bovine colostrum supplementation during training significantly increased peak anaerobic power, but had no effect on alactic anaerobic work capacity, 1-RM or plasma IGF-I.

 

[theprofessor]

Now I will say no as well after actually researching the subject specifically on colustrum supplementation

Effect of bovine colostrum on anaerobic exercise performance and plasma insulin-like growth factor I.Buckley JD, Brinkworth GD, Abbott MJ.
School of Health Sciences, University of South Australia, Holbrooks Road, Underdale, SA 5032, Australia. [email protected]

In this study, we examined the effects of bovine colostrum on peak vertical jump power (VJpeak), peak cycle power (CPpeak), alactic anaerobic work capacity, resistance exercise one-repetition maxima (1-RM) and plasma insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) concentrations. Using a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, parallel design, 51 males completed 8 weeks of resistance and plyometric training while consuming 60 g x day(-1) of bovine colostrum (n = 26) or concentrated whey protein powder (n = 25). Peak vertical jump power, peak cycle power, alactic anaerobic work capacity, 1-RM and plasma IGF-I were not different between groups at baseline (P > 0.33). Peak vertical jump power and peak cycle power were still not significantly different between groups by week 4 (VJpeak: bovine colostrum, 7231 +/- 488 W; whey protein, 7214 +/- 530 W; P = 0.99; CPpeak: bovine colostrum, 1272 +/- 202 W; whey protein, 1232 +/- 208 W; P = 0.99). By week 8, however, peak vertical jump power (bovine colostrum, 7370 +/- 503 W; whey powder, 7237 +/- 481 W; 95% confidence intervals, 54 to 170 W; P < 0.01) and peak cycle power (bovine colostrum, 1400 +/- 215 W; whey protein, 1311 +/- 192 W; 95% confidence intervals, 20 to 61 W; P < 0.01) were significantly higher in the bovine colostrum condition. Alactic anaerobic work capacity and 1-RM increased (P < 0.001), but the increases were not different between groups (P > 0.08). Plasma IGF-I did not change in either group (P = 0.55). We conclude that bovine colostrum supplementation during training significantly increased peak anaerobic power, but had no effect on alactic anaerobic work capacity, 1-RM or plasma IGF-I.

good research bro... you never fail to amaze me...
the reason i say no from the start is simply the fact that nobody has failed a test yet... and if... big if... it were possible... the odds of it happening... slim to none... it would have to be a freak situation... its a very popular product...

 

[kmoe42]

now another question i have is could GNC sell something besides muscle milk.. lets say their so called anabolic inhibitors or test boosters.. could these pop up on a drug test.. no i am not wastin my money on these things i mean i can get the real thing for half the price.. but i do have some buddies who buy this stuff and think they are safe from gettin popped could they show up?

 

[gjohnson5]

I was also in agreement that the changes were slim. But as a COTB , if the chance is .001% , I have to say yes.

I cannot overlook the smallest of possibilites without first researching the subject

 

[theprofessor]

now another question i have is could GNC sell something besides muscle milk.. lets say their so called anabolic inhibitors or test boosters.. could these pop up on a drug test.. no i am not wastin my money on these things i mean i can get the real thing for half the price.. but i do have some buddies who buy this stuff and think they are safe from gettin popped could they show up?

without researching... i'd say as long as it's not somthing on the list of banned substances (like someone else said some things at GNC are on this list...) ...the odds would be slim to none...
if it was a common thing to happen... there would be failed drug tests reported...

 

[gjohnson5]

And as soon as I say this I find another study that says colostrum CAN infact increase serum IGF-1 levels...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12133885&dopt=Abstract

J Appl Physiol. 2002 Aug;93(2):732-9. Related Articles, Links


IGF-I, IgA, and IgG responses to bovine colostrum supplementation during training.

Mero A, Kahkonen J, Nykanen T, Parviainen T, Jokinen I, Takala T, Nikula T, Rasi S, Leppaluoto J.

Department of Biology of Physical Activity, 40351 Jyvaskyla, Finland. [email protected]

This study examined the effect of bovine colostrum (Dynamic colostrum) supplementation on blood and saliva variables (study 1) and the absorption of orally administered human recombinant insulin-like growth factor (IGF)-I (rhIGF-I) labeled with 123I (123I-rhIGF-I) (study 2). In study 1, adult male and female athletes were randomly assigned in a double-blind fashion to either an experimental (Dynamic; n = 19) or a control (Placebo; n = 11) group. The former consumed daily 20 g of Dynamic supplement, and the latter 20 g of maltodextrin during a 2-wk training period. After bovine colostrum supplementation, significant increases were noticed in serum IGF-I (P < 0.01) and saliva IgA (P < 0.01) in Dynamic compared with Placebo. In study 2, gel electrophoresis was carried out in 12 adult subjects with serum samples taken 60 min after ingestion of 123I-rhIGF-I and showed peaks at 0.6 and at 40-90 kDa, with the former inducing 96% and the latter 4% of the total radioactivity. It was concluded that a long-term supplementation of bovine colostrum (Dynamic) increases serum IGF-I and saliva IgA concentration in athletes during training. Absorption data show that ingested 123I-rhIGF-I is fragmented in circulation and that no radioactive IGF-I is eluted at the positions of free, or the IGF, binding proteins, giving no support to the absorption of IGF-I from bovine colostrum.

Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 12133885 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

[gjohnson5]

20 grams of colostrum is a collossal dose. But once again there is a difference between slim and none

 

[theprofessor]

20 grams of colostrum is a collossal dose. But once again there is a difference between slim and none

is this the same colostrum that comes from a mother breastfeeding? if so... 20 grams would be easy to fed to a baby... my wife used a breast pump and put it in a bottle... it is different than the milk... the milk comes in after the colostrum... they are distinctly different...
if so... we need to have a breastfeeding infant drug tested...

 

[gjohnson5]

is this the same colostrum that comes from a mother breastfeeding? if so... 20 grams would be easy to fed to a baby... my wife used a breast pump and put it in a bottle... it is different than the milk... the milk comes in after the colostrum... they are distinctly different...
if so... we need to have a breastfeeding infant drug tested...

in terms of supplementation colostrum comes in at most 500mg pills. So 20grams is 40 times that. Huge dose... Yes we are talking about the same colostrum

 

[MTS]

yeah 60g and 20g is a huge dosage...i dont think there is even that much and a 6 pound bucket of muscle milk