found this from another post..what are your opinions??

[rez]

In regards to preworkout consumption...
"avoid coffee as it causes an insulin release"

what you guys think?

 

[diamonddiceclay]

I disagree

 

[rez]

it goes on to say..

...which will stop fat burning

 

[georgie24]

if that was the case xendrine would be making people fat
dr atkins needs to pump those stupid theorys to get revenue from his books by brainwashing then instilling an unrealisic way of dieting to you to live by he is the only dumb fucker to come up with such assbackwards shit

 

[rez]

what about a cup of coffee w skim milk? would that stop fat loss?

 

[gymtime]

what about a cup of coffee w skim milk? would that stop fat loss?

If you're looking to have coffee with skim milk before a workout, there's nothing wrong with that. Just avoid adding sugar, especially if you're cutting.

 

[diamonddiceclay]

If you're looking to have coffee with skim milk before a workout, there's nothing wrong with that. Just avoid adding sugar, especially if you're cutting.

you should avoid dairy when cutting

 

[gymtime]

you should avoid dairy when cutting

True. But a quarter cup of skim milk added to a cup of coffee isn't going to ruin anyone's diet.

 

[rez]

i agree that dairy should be left when cutting, it allows you to have better quality proteins and fats in your diet

 

[PwB]

I feel I should reply to this since I made this comment. I should have said, avoid drinking excessive amounts of coffee. Yes, the information comes from the Atikins center and from a few other sources such as Jay Robbs Fat Burning Diet, and others since coffee causes a rise in insulin levels. On the flip side coffee is an excellent stimulant which helps increase fat loss and workout intensity, I was just pointing out that when trying to do a low carb diet, CKD, or the one I posted, which emphasis the release of glucagon as part of its success, too much coffee would cause insulin release which inhibits fat loss. I didn't mean to suggest that no coffee should be consumed, or that fat burners aren't useful. Just wanted to make things clear.

 

[VooDoo Lady]

The comment was also made on another board that coffee messes with nutrient absorption....thoughts?

 

[cure]

We are picking at small details folks. One cup of coffee will not derail nutrient absorbtion!

 

[playdo]

Its the caffeine in the coffee that there talking about...Atkins says stay away from any stimulants...which I think is a bunch of bull anyway... If your worried about glycogen...The glycogen will be burned up while your lifting

 

[MS]

Dr Atkin's diet is not designed for bodybuilders. Caffeine is best considered as 'glycogen sparing' rather than a fatloss inhibitor. This is why endurance athletes AND bodybuilders like to use it pre workout. In both cases you need maximum glycogen burning. You do not lift weights to burn fat. Maybe I better emphasize that YOU DO NOT LIFT WEIGHTS TO BURN FAT. Heavy, intense (ie muscle building) exercise requires glycogen as fuel. It cannot use fat as fuel. So caffeine/coffee before an intense, anaerobic or endurance workout is a great idea. Keep in mind that caffeine loses its effectiveness if used habitually.

In any case it doesn't really matter if you burn fat while exercising, or just burn calories and raise your LBM/metabolism. As long as protein intake is adequate, you just need a caloric deficit to lose fat.

 

[USMC_Devildog]

Insulin Release In Coffee?

No way. If you drink your coffee plain (black) without adding cream or sugar, then it has no carbs. Meaning, it will not cause a rise in insulin. Don't take any vitamins when you drink coffee. Wait at least an hour or two. It screws with vitamin C.