Forma + AISports DAA

[Oatmeal12]

Hey guys!

New to the forums!

So I have been doing a slow cut the last few months and am finally getting into the 10% fat range! I have one more month to go before spring break and I want to be as vascular and dry as I can possibly be!

I am going to run Forma Stanzol + Sodium DAA. Just wanted your guy's opinion on running these two compounds together.

I was planning on just doing the DAA at 3 grams ED and Forma 2-3 pumps 2x a day. What do you all think?

 

[LiftLearnLove]

have u ran either supplements before?

Im running daa starting Monday for 2 months first time.. would have liked to do a stack but gonna test the water with these test boosters first see how my body reacts

I read a forum earlier sayin u can get gyno from using daa must be serious enough

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[Oatmeal12]

Cool man! I have ran DAA in past from Primal Performance, but for only 2 weeks... Im going to run this stack for 6 weeks. Forma looks like a really sweet compound! I'm starting both tomorrow.

 

[LiftLearnLove]

cool man I'll keep an eye out see how you get on.

heard only great things about forma aswell ill be doing this stack after my solo daa run..

Good look with it man

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[Oatmeal12]

Hey I have been on this Forma Stanzol for only a week and I feel shit right after I apply it?? It makes me feel dizzy, light headed and anxious. Is this common, Have I killed my estrogen already? Crazy Thing is I have only been doing 2 pumps... Last for about 2 hours after application.

 

[Oatmeal12]

Well I think I know why
From Web MD:

Horse chestnut products can sometimes cause side effects such as dizziness, headache, stomach upset, and itching.

Fuck...

Any Suggestions?

 

[notjake11]

That's in your head man. From what I've read the halflife on Forma is over 12 hours so it's in you all day when you apply twice a day.

 

[Oatmeal12]

That's in your head man. From what I've read the halflife on Forma is over 12 hours so it's in you all day when you apply twice a day.

Maybe so, But then why did it not happen earlier in the week when I was applying it? Nothing has changed as in my diet or schedule.

Thanks for the Reply!

 

[Headholio]

I never got the libido boost from DAA I get from other test boosters and maybe estrogen is the reason why. Forma might be a good stack with it.

 

[Oatmeal12]

I never got the libido boost from DAA I get from other test boosters and maybe estrogen is the reason why. Forma might be a good stack with it.

That is exactly my thoughts!

 

[notjake11]

The delay in onset doesn't mean it isn't in your head, but that's just one possibility anyway.

I sincerely doubt it has anything to do with having killed your estrogen. Forma helps limit estro but it doesn't kill it. Even at 10-20 pumps a day it just helps limit estrogen and works as an anabolic. Two pumps a day wouldn't come close to being an estrogen killer and in fact is probably too small a dose to have much effect at all.

It is possible you are having a minor allergic reaction to something in the compound. Not all allergies are triggered (at least not noticibly) by immediate exposure so it may have started as the product began to accumulate in your system. Can't say for sure.

Your best bet would be to PM NeedtogetAAS to ask an opinion. The guy knows more about the products from NTBM and Mr. Supps than anyone (since he designed most of them) and could give you the best feedback.

 

[Oatmeal12]

Thanks, you may be right about this allergic reaction i may be having. Ill send NeedTo a PM, or maybe he can chime in on my thread here. I really want to use this product though as directed.

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[stevesmi]

Hey I have been on this Forma Stanzol for only a week and I feel shit right after I apply it?? It makes me feel dizzy, light headed and anxious. Is this common, Have I killed my estrogen already? Crazy Thing is I have only been doing 2 pumps... Last for about 2 hours after application.

nah man. never heard of this happening with forma

 

[Oatmeal12]

nah man. never heard of this happening with forma

i know, neither have I...

Update: went to the store and bought some plain old Horse Chest Nut, going to take some in a little while and see how I feel.

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[needtogetaas]

Ok let me ask you some questions my friend.
Do you rub it on after you get out of the shower?
what kind of soap do you use?
where are you applying it?
do you where cologne?
Do you use any moisturizers on your hands or body.

Keep in mind anything at all that is on your hands or body when you use a transdermal can end up in your blood stream. So this is the first thing we want to look at.

2nd: Are you a diabetic?

3rd: What time you using the product and what does your diet look like all day the entire diet?

Lets explore some options my friend ok. I never like to jump to one conclusion right away these days. It could be the chestnut seed extract but this all depends on some other factors as well. If it was this is something that happens to 1 in a couple hundred thousand and its not going to kill you or cause any life long damage . So we have time to explore some options ok. Lets discuss.

 

[needtogetaas]

Needto <---- Marking the thread so Ill see it later. Thanks

 

[Oatmeal12]

Ok let me ask you some questions my friend.
Do you rub it on after you get out of the shower?
what kind of soap do you use?
where are you applying it?
do you where cologne?
Do you use any moisturizers on your hands or body.

Keep in mind anything at all that is on your hands or body when you use a transdermal can end up in your blood stream. So this is the first thing we want to look at.

2nd: Are you a diabetic?

3rd: What time you using the product and what does your diet look like all day the entire diet?

Lets explore some options my friend ok. I never like to jump to one conclusion right away these days. It could be the chestnut seed extract but this all depends on some other factors as well. If it was this is something that happens to 1 in a couple hundred thousand and its not going to kill you or cause any life long damage . So we have time to explore some options ok. Lets discuss.

Do you rub it on after you get out of the shower? No, First thing in the morning, then post workout after my shower.
what kind of soap do you use? Regular Dove Bar or Irish Spring
where are you applying it? Chest, abs, and Shoulders
do you where cologne? Yes, When I go to work
Do you use any moisturizers on your hands or body. No Sir

I am not Diabetic.

Stats: 158lbs
Bodyfat: 10%
Height: 5'8''

Here is my diet (Note not in order):
Strawberries
Banana, medium
Quaker Oats
Rice Dream Rice Milk or Almond Milk
Purdue Lean Ground Turkey 93/7
Arnold 100% Whole Wheat Sandwich Thins
Kroger 2% Cottage Cheese
Steelhead Trout, Farm Raised
Lean Steak
Healthy 'N Fit Nutritionals 100% Egg Protein
Sweet potato
Grilled Skinless Chicken Breast
Maranatha Almond Butter, No Stir

Daily Totals for Yesterday:
Cals
2,501
Fat
61 g
Cholesterol
381 mg
Sodium
1668 mg
Carbs
209 g
Fiber
27 g
Protein
287 g
Sugars
46 g

Thanks NeedToGetAAS!

 

[stevesmi]

forma is one of those things you need to experiment with.. there is no 1 way you can use it.. we all are different. same goes for any AI or whatever you use.. some guys need X amount of squirts, some need Y amount.

 

[needtogetaas]

You know I cant put my figure on it exactly my friend. I am betting its more do to the fact that you have sensitive skin more than anything else. Have you tried applying the product in other areas?