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for those guys stuck on orals

mike517 said:
ok. suggest a cycle for 6 weeks with Anavar - oxandrolone - and an inject that'll put on a little size along with the hardness of Anavar - oxandrolone - . don't have mroe time than 6 weeks. without ed an eod injects. I ain't injecting myself that often.

I'm not in canada like the profile says so a lot of compounds aren't available where I am please keep in mind.


tren is a great injectable that you can do short time and see good gains

d-bol is a good oral... though I don't condone orals as they are generally more toxic with the exception of var which is still toxic but is supposedly on the "milder" side of the toxic chart... however alot of folks don't have any problems and the liver does have the ability to regenerate meaning if you do slightly damage yourself if you take care of your body after it will heal, however this is not license to abuse it... because if by chance you go past the regenerative stage it means death or organ transplant and neither of those should be on your to-do-list!!
 
Papa Lion said:
I respectfully disagree!!!!

did you mean tylenol... when you said tylers??

No, he meant Tylers.

"Tyler Liver Detox Factors"

one of the best liver supps.

Tylenol would be horrible.


To OP:

a 6 week cycle with one injectable WITHOUT ed/eod injects would be a waste IMO. Test E/Cyp are going to take at least 4-5 weeks to build up, and by that time you are almost done with the cycle. Test Prop/NPP would be better or Test Prop/Tren A but both would require more frequent injects.
 
Papa Lion said:
transdermals are a waste!! I know a guy who was on prescipt transdermals for almost two years for hrt and didn't see any real improvement till he switched out to injectables


False - dose is the key, not the delivery system. WHy would an injectable be better than better than a trasdermal...dose is dose buddy.

I am speaking to making your own trasdermals really - like a DHEA base w/ some tren or test, etc, etc..... If your buddy had bad or less than expected results w/ his transdermal he needed to be taking mroe - simple as that.

And yes s8tn... I did mean Tylers Liver Detox... didn't I put Tylers??
 
Why's everyone knock transdermals so much!??!

I don't use them but they are out there for a reaosn there so f-ck it use 'em if you gotta.

Especially since there are options these days like trenbolone Base, Test Base,Bold Base, Methenolone Acetate.

If you're dead set on not using injects and you are smart enough to realize that chronic oral use iss extremely toxic and potentially hazardous to your health, and that you can get 35-40% absorption rate these days from transdermals -- go for it.
 
this site is so dead set against oral only cycles!
i personally dont recommend oral only cycles but a lot of UK bodybuilding websites actually recommend oral only as a 1st cycle.
check out www.uk-muscle.co.uk
 
mattrich said:
this site is so dead set against oral only cycles!
i personally dont recommend oral only cycles but a lot of UK bodybuilding websites actually recommend oral only as a 1st cycle.
check out www.uk-muscle.co.uk
I am saying.wtf with the all oral hat around here....yes its a bit more toxic to the liver but really whats the reason.
 
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