For anyone interested in overall performance...

[Debaser]

There's a book called Core Performance by Mark Verstegen. It's a pretty all-encompassing program that's refreshingly up to date (includes both foam rolling and active-isolated stretching, for example).

What I like about it is that he includes every facet for the professional athlete: strength, power, elasticity, endurance, prehab, regeneration, flexibility, joint function--the list goes on.

Some of you with different goals may have to tailor the program a bit, but it's worth picking up just for the prehab and core training areas. The guy knows his shit.

You'd be surprised how out of shape you are when you start this program.

 

[casualbb]

There's a book called Core Performance by Mark Verstegen. It's a pretty all-encompassing program that's refreshingly up to date (includes both foam rolling and active-isolated stretching, for example).

What I like about it is that he includes every facet for the professional athlete: strength, power, elasticity, endurance, prehab, regeneration, flexibility, joint function--the list goes on.

Some of you with different goals may have to tailor the program a bit, but it's worth picking up just for the prehab and core training areas. The guy knows his shit.

You'd be surprised how out of shape you are when you start this program.

wow I really want this book. No joke

This is definitely going on the hannukah list

 

[casualbb]

here's the amazon link I'm looking at

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/157954908X/ref=sib_rdr_dp/002-6020612-6948833

 

[Allon]

Sounds exactly what I am looking for

 

[Allon]

Anyone have any links to or know of the principals used here?

 

[Debaser]

For movement prep by an independent reviewer outlining his progress.

I knew my joint function and coordination was bad, but I didn't see just HOW bad until I tried the movement prep.

And FYI, that's just the warmup...haha.

By the way, from seeing Tom [Treutlein] post, this looks like it would be EXACTLY what he's after.

 

[casualbb]

Yes, bump for TT

 

[Debaser]

If we get enough people involved, do you think a dedicated thread to the program might be in order?

I'll tell you one thing: before I started weight training, I was very inactive. Computer, video games etc. ran my life. 20 years worth of mounting dysfunction. This program, even as early into it as I am now, as well as Pete Egoscue's methods have been an absolute godsend.

For anyone interested in health, performance and function, and not JUST hypertrophy, I'll tell you right now from personal experience: If you're only doing bodybuilding-type training, you may not be as healthy as you think. You may even be sliding into an even more dysfunctional state.

 

[casualbb]

sure why the hell not, only problem is you pretty much have to buy the book (which i plan on doing, but still it limits the discussion)

 

[Debaser]

Bump.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Aww, you guys bumped this just for me? And I was planning on not coming back here for awhile - you know, just a break from EF.

I'm definitely ordering this book. Or maybe running to Border's tomorrow morning to check it out.

Debaser, from what you know of the book already, and the activities involved, would it be possible to still pursue hypertrophy while following the book? I ask, simply because you were right in assuming that's exactly what I'd be after, but at the same time I still care for aesthetics to a pretty large degree.

And for future reference, a goal of mine may be Muay Thai and/or BJJ competition, so would this be the type of thing to put me on the road to that?

 

[casualbb]

I bought this book yesterday

Very pop-accessible and geared towards mass consumption, but at the same time remarkably complete and scientifically current

I've decided I'm doing his 12-week plan before I try to get any bigger. I have some nagging joint issues that I want to resolve before I add more muscle on defective hip joints

 

[Tom Treutlein]

How do you know they're defective?

Let us know how it goes, Casual. Keep us posted - beeatch.

 

[Debaser]

I bought this book yesterday

Very pop-accessible and geared towards mass consumption, but at the same time remarkably complete and scientifically current

I've decided I'm doing his 12-week plan before I try to get any bigger. I have some nagging joint issues that I want to resolve before I add more muscle on defective hip joints

Agreed that it's for the general public, but you'd be surprised how deficient you are in certain areas, and it tests just how "in shape" you really are. It surprised the hell out of me.

There are more advanced programs in the works, and he said that they should be up on the website soon. But believe me, this'll be sufficient for the time being.

 

[b fold the truth]

If we get enough people involved, do you think a dedicated thread to the program might be in order?

Yes, I am interested in learning.

B True

 

[casualbb]

What surprised me was how despite the mass-audience format, the program is REALLY complicated!

I'm thinking, "well it's going to take me at least a few weeks to get a hang of this"

And I actually know things, unlike the seeming target audience of this book. How is Joe average going to pick this up and whip himself into shape in 12 weeks?

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Damn you guys. I wanna get this book now. As in right now, now.

Edit: In fact, I'm driving to Border's when I go pick up my girl from school in an hour or so.

I doubt I'll get a response by then, but: Are there any other pieces of literature such as this one that would be ideal for increasing overal performance? CCJ sent me a kickass website describing some ideal methods to training as an athlete, and I'm sure this book will supplement it perfectly.

Not even just training, as in strength, hypertrophy, or explosion. More books like this one, that deal with optimizing the frame we all work with? You know, the building of a foundation to keep one in peak condition for building on top of it. Or something.

 

[Debaser]

What surprised me was how despite the mass-audience format, the program is REALLY complicated!

I'm thinking, "well it's going to take me at least a few weeks to get a hang of this"

And I actually know things, unlike the seeming target audience of this book. How is Joe average going to pick this up and whip himself into shape in 12 weeks?

Yeah, I'm sure the bench and biceps guy, or even the totally untrained individual might have a hard time grasping everything. Even though it's written for a mass audience, it certainly filters out the pussies.

 

[Debaser]

Also of note is the webpage, where you can get a CD-ROM for the book. It has videos of every exercise, and all of the workout tables in PDF format so you can print copies of what you need. It really comes in handy.

 

[velvett]

Looks/sounds like some great stuff - I'm going to have to pick that one up.

THANKS FOR THE INFO!!

 

[Tom Treutlein]

$30 at the store (hardcover). Paperback is out of print. Bah! I guess I'll end up shelling it out, though.

 

[velvett]

$30 at the store (hardcover). Paperback is out of print. Bah! I guess I'll end up shelling it out, though.

The Core Performance book?

AMAZON has it for $20 and the paperback isn't due out til' May of 2005.

 

[casualbb]

Also of note is the webpage, where you can get a CD-ROM for the book. It has videos of every exercise, and all of the workout tables in PDF format so you can print copies of what you need. It really comes in handy.

For $35, the cd really should have come with the book.

On an unrelated note, have you done the full program debaser? or just incorporated elements of it.

What I'm thinking is that I really don't like some of the exercises in the "Strength" section. I mean, cable wood chops and db squat-to-overhead press... I'm thinking I may just replace it with my HST routine, but still do the elastic element after each set

 

[Tom Treutlein]

What I'm wondering is how much of a miracle this book really is. I mean, it sounds good and all, but I'm sure elements of this book have already been implemented elsewhere.

 

[Debaser]

For $35, the cd really should have come with the book.

On an unrelated note, have you done the full program debaser? or just incorporated elements of it.

What I'm thinking is that I really don't like some of the exercises in the "Strength" section. I mean, cable wood chops and db squat-to-overhead press... I'm thinking I may just replace it with my HST routine, but still do the elastic element after each set

I'm doing the program pretty much verbatim right now.

Probably the cost of the book is due to the fact that it's hardcover with quite a few pictures, all in color and on glossy pages.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss cable chopping...Paul Chek called it one of the best core exercises out there.

 

[ChefWide]

Agreed that it's for the general public, but you'd be surprised how deficient you are in certain areas, and it tests just how "in shape" you really are. It surprised the hell out of me.

There are more advanced programs in the works, and he said that they should be up on the website soon. But believe me, this'll be sufficient for the time being.

This is the core, pardon the pun, theory behind EXACTLY what my trainer and i have been doing these past couple of months.. her exceptions are notable, but this is the basis.

Asside from my system being shocked to hell and back, the gains in stamina, speed and explosive power have been nothing short of miraculous. The added benefit is I have been leaning faster then ever before in my life.

Did I mention the sex? Really? Hmm... strange.

 

[b fold the truth]

Looked all over the island for it..no luck. I'll look in Hungary next week.

B True