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For any BD doubters

Who guarantee us that these lab tests are real?
A stranger has to do it not a magazine, book or a site. They can easily get paid by any UG lab for advertise good results.
 
well if the UG can pay off a magazine then i dont see why they would short change customer's, gear is CHEAP to manufacture.
 
Oh and the site that done it is devoted to lab testing gear.. It's not just bd that gets tested, Iranian enth, thai pinks, geofman test enth, norma deca..
 
Retabolil2 said:
Yes you can all them anytime and verify the results.
I just got Trinabol150 tested at SRCS, results are amazing, its overdosed big time! BD is in da house! :)

I bet it's not as overdosed as Primobol was :P

Will post that lab report up shortly
 
i use bd and like em but i have also seen unbiased lab reports that have them slightly underdosed as well
 
Baywatch69 said:
Call up SRCS and quote the ID#.. they will verify each result, here is the number for scrs - (801) 277-8228

What does SRCS means?
A friend of mine know a professional BB in England and he told my friend that BD products are very underdosed. The batches differ a lot from one to another. Very inconsistent. People, UG lab doesnt have to go through real test quality control like Organon and Serono so they can do whatever they want to. You will always see people saying that they got great results from UG lab stuff and I belive that cause something its inside the vial but not very much lets say 60% maybe... I dont know if its 60%, 70% or 40% but something its inside the vial and adding to that if you eat, rest, train properly will always get some results...some people bettert than others(genetic counts) or maybe you are using BD boldenone with a Iranian Testoviron made by Schering... Lets assume that what gave you good results was the Iranian Testoviron and not the BD Boldenone and then you will tell people "I had great gains from BD Boldenone"
 
The bastards, the testabol depot is overdosed by 25%. Very nice. Great post.

While it's always sweet to get something for nothing, don't forget to factor the extra dosing into all your calculations and pct scheduling.
 
blut wump said:
The bastards, the testabol depot is overdosed by 25%. Very nice. Great post.

While it's always sweet to get something for nothing, don't forget to factor the extra dosing into all your calculations and pct scheduling.

Yes I had their cyp tested at 250mg/1ml but too many people complained about painfull injections :) Anyways most of their gear is being tested over the label claim recently which is a good sign :)
I just sent 2vials of BD Stan-50 for lab test results, I`ll post pics of both vials and lab test results as soon as I get them in.
 
Retabolil2 said:
Yes I had their cyp tested at 250mg/1ml but too many people complained about painfull injections :) Anyways most of their gear is being tested over the label claim recently which is a good sign :)
I just sent 2vials of BD Stan-50 for lab test results, I`ll post pics of both vials and lab test results as soon as I get them in.
I got bad reactions from thigh injections with their Cyp but that's why god gave me an arse. No problems at all with glute injections.
 
Did anyone actually question the quality/dosage of BD products anyways??? i have always thought they were quality
 
racoon_city said:
well if the UG can pay off a magazine then i dont see why they would short change customer's, gear is CHEAP to manufacture.
agree with that 100% .. often makes me wonder why people scaming out there... why ripp people off and underdose, when u can make people extremely happy and get a good word out for your product, get the satifaction of putting out a quality product... i mean the say product "X" costs them under 10 bucks and they are selling it for 90$
whut thes the point of underdosing d saving 5 bucks when u can still make 80 and have bros loving u...?
 
macrophage69alpha said:
San Rafael Chemical Services-

if the tests are theirs, they are legitimate and accurate

That's where they were all tested :)

Anyone who questions them please feel free to call up and have them verified
 
X Man said:
agree with that 100% .. often makes me wonder why people scaming out there... why ripp people off and underdose, when u can make people extremely happy and get a good word out for your product, get the satifaction of putting out a quality product... i mean the say product "X" costs them under 10 bucks and they are selling it for 90$
whut thes the point of underdosing d saving 5 bucks when u can still make 80 and have bros loving u...?

Chinese people do everything to save 1 cent !
 
Mr.X wrote this on a thread I posted yesterday:
"While I agree that raw materials in china are fairly consistent from the big manufacturers, I can't say China is comparable to 1st world manufacturers of AS. A lot of people who haven't been to china do a lot of assuming in terms of conditions and mind set in china. Chinese will skimp on the smallest things just to save a penny, even if they shave 10% from the product and save a few thousand US, they will be happy. It is VERY odd for western business ideals to skimp and save a $100 on a $100,000 project - possibly lose future business, but the Chinese think differently. Especially when they have the upper hand, they will take advantage of almost any situation."
 
but if ur stuff is made ug...then it doesnt matter... well i guess it does because the powder may be underdosed...but the ug uses more powder soooo im still coming out ahead :p
 
Besides pretty sure that BD is thai owned.

It might be thai owned but it's not thai made, it's made in good old Peoples Republic of China.
 
Someone has a test lab made in a different lab other than San Rafael Chemical Services? Magazines, books and websites with published lab results doesnt count as they could be manipulated by the editor
 
Shinobi said:
Someone has a test lab made in a different lab other than San Rafael Chemical Services? Magazines, books and websites with published lab results doesnt count as they could be manipulated by the editor

following your logic we can not trust any lab test results at all :)
 
Retabolil2 said:
MrX did you know GTP was made in Satch`s bath tub? :p

Nah it wasn't made in his bathtub, Satch-GTP brand was made in jerusalem sink ;) He said he wanted to make it in moscow, but he found the conditions in Jerusalem better - less drunks, safer and cleaner etc... :p
 
Retabolil2 said:
following your logic we can not trust any lab test results at all :)

From the sources I listed like mags, books, websites I dont trust. Its sad but its true. Here in Portugal its very expensive to lab test something cause if it was cheap I would do it once. This friend of mine from England do biz with professional BB's and he said that they dont even touch UG lab stuff.
 
I've noticed that some people love BD and other's won't touch it. can someone give me some background on this debate?

Is the argument against because it's not human grade, or is it deeper than that?
 
Send it to USA like I do!

Shinobi said:
From the sources I listed like mags, books, websites I dont trust. Its sad but its true. Here in Portugal its very expensive to lab test something cause if it was cheap I would do it once. This friend of mine from England do biz with professional BB's and he said that they dont even touch UG lab stuff.
 
the-short-one said:
I've noticed that some people love BD and other's won't touch it. can someone give me some background on this debate?

There are people here who don't use UG steroids anymore, so no UG steroid supplier is recommended not just BD. Other folks just plain don't like BD because of the pain from the product, or some other reasons - whatever they post. If I had to pick between a "Bob's Basement" UG steroid lab and BD, I'd definitely go with BD. However, if I had to pick between Schering and BD, Schering would ALWAYS be the winner - pharmaceutical brand.

the-short-one said:
Is the argument against because it's not human grade, or is it deeper than that?

There is a bit of play in words here. When a UG makes test enanthate, it's test enanthate for humans, but the lab conditions, raw products and the manufacturing process is what sets apart a UG vs. Pharmaceutical company. UG steroid labs are not usually pharm grade products. Although BD is probably one of the better UGs out there, it's still a UG. I would take Schering, Norma or Nile, any day! ;)

The debate, if we can call it that, lies in the quality of the products, which can be lax with UG steroid suppliers. UG steroid labs can't compare to pharmaceutical manufacturers.
 
the-short-one said:
I've noticed that some people love BD and other's won't touch it. can someone give me some background on this debate?

Is the argument against because it's not human grade, or is it deeper than that?

To be honest from my perspective ( and I am somewhat new here and hopefully wont get bombed for this ), it appears as though people mostly have issues with the country of origin of the UG lab. They seem to relate the quality of the gear with their personal perceptions of the people that live there.
 
Mr.X said:
There are people here who don't use UG steroids anymore, so no UG steroid supplier is recommended not just BD. Other folks just plain don't like BD because of the pain from the product, or some other reasons - whatever they post. If I had to pick between a "Bob's Basement" UG steroid lab and BD, I'd definitely go with BD. However, if I had to pick between Schering and BD, Schering would ALWAYS be the winner - pharmaceutical brand.



There is a bit of play in words here. When a UG makes test enanthate, it's test enanthate for humans, but the lab conditions, raw products and the manufacturing process is what sets apart a UG vs. Pharmaceutical company. UG steroid labs are not usually pharm grade products. Although BD is probably one of the better UGs out there, it's still a UG. I would take Schering, Norma or Nile, any day! ;)

The debate, if we can call it that, lies in the quality of the products, which can be lax with UG steroid suppliers. UG steroid labs can't compare to pharmaceutical manufacturers.

thank you. :)
 
KD1 said:
To be honest from my perspective ( and I am somewhat new here and hopefully wont get bombed for this ), it appears as though people mostly have issues with the country of origin of the UG lab. They seem to relate the quality of the gear with their personal perceptions of the people that live there.

But thats kinda logical to think this way. Its sad but its true.
Good people end up paying for the reputation of bad people cause they are the majority and they all belong to the same country
 
I remember when I used to use homebrew fina...its so powerful! Its insane! BD trenbolone is not even 50% as powerful comparing to the homebrew fina I used.
 
Shinobi said:
I remember when I used to use homebrew fina...its so powerful! Its insane! BD trenbolone is not even 50% as powerful comparing to the homebrew fina I used.
exactly! people are saying ohh i like this i like that..sory bros cant get it so i dont have a choice... ug and homebrew is all i can get my hands on :qt:
 
Baywatch69 said:



One question..... Is the Test Cyp supposed to be 250mg/ml or 200mg/ml? The Test Enth is called 250, but is 200mg/ml? The numbers don't seem to be consistent...... Anyone know the dosages on the Test Cyp and Enth per ml?

rizz
 
Prizz said:
One question..... Is the Test Cyp supposed to be 250mg/ml or 200mg/ml? The Test Enth is called 250, but is 200mg/ml? The numbers don't seem to be consistent...... Anyone know the dosages on the Test Cyp and Enth per ml?

rizz
test-c 200.......test-e 250
 
here is my bottom line- if u have a trusted source bd is a good bet, i know for sure everything i have done personally by bd is legit and the t-bol i love and so do alot of other bros
 
oxymed said:
test-c 200.......test-e 250


Hmmmm..... well on a recent price list I saw the Test E was listed as 200mg/ml..... In the one pic, the Cyp tested 250mg/ml...... Things aren't adding up, but I guess it's close enough..... It's only 50mg....

rizz
 
I do business in China (not AAS related) and some places will rob you blind and others are very loyal and make a good product.
 
holy smokes....looks like quality control isn't a big thing , but if its overdosed, then who cares ????!!!!!! getting more for your $$$
 
Overdosed is great if you know about it in advance but pretty useless if it's pot-luck and inconsistent. If I want 100mg rather than 50 then I'll buy 100mg.

I'm going pharma grade from now on. These numbers are all too wild.
 
blut wump said:
Overdosed is great if you know about it in advance but pretty useless if it's pot-luck and inconsistent. If I want 100mg rather than 50 then I'll buy 100mg.

I'm going pharma grade from now on. These numbers are all too wild.

I think you hit the nail on the head! I would like to see consistency that is within reasonable range of the stated potency, not 100% over.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
So overdosed is a bad thing?
Imagine as a newbie you run your first cycle of test at 500mg per week. You get a bucket load of sides because you're really running 750mg due to overdosing. You then spend the rest of your life convinced that test is bad for you or you decide to lower the dose to 250 next time. Unfortunately, the second cycle isn't overdosed and so you run an actual 250.

Alternatively imagine a vet who has decided to move up to a gram a week and gets a double-dosed vial. You get the picture.

A little bit of overdosing is mostly irrelevant and safe. An overdosing of almost 100% can be dangerous or, at least, a nuisance if you're already pushing your limits.

Now, if we could get some batch numbers and tie these up with some lab tests, we might know where we stand. As it is, I'd rather know what I'm taking and for that you need pharma grade.
 
blut wump said:
Overdosed is great if you know about it in advance but pretty useless if it's pot-luck and inconsistent. If I want 100mg rather than 50 then I'll buy 100mg.

I'm going pharma grade from now on. These numbers are all too wild.
I agree with you, thats what I told them. Also it cloggs needles. But frankly speaking I did expect worse results from both vials. I thought one of them would be 65mg or so and another would be under... well I was wrong...
 
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