Fisrt cycle ??

[antonio]

Hi,

I have been reading on steroid cycles for a while now and finally came up with this one: It's all oral even though it might not be as effective as injectables.

week 1-6 : Dbol 30 mgs a day
week 3-8: winny 25 mgs a day
Week 6-8: Proviron 50 mgs a day


I weigh 194 pounds and want to put on a few pounds of lean quality muscle.

Any commnets or suggestions will be highly appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[BullGod]

Prsonally, foryour first cycle (or any cycle) I would not recomend 2 17-AA orals. Sub the D-Bol (hard on liver) for inject like Sust. at 500 / Week. Then maybe bump the Winny to 30 / Day.
Proviron is good and mybe follow the Sust. up with Clomid.

That is a mild first cycle that will give positive results.

If you HATE injectibles, I would (like I always do) recommend Oxandrolone at 40 MG / ED alone for 8 Weeks. You will see incredible results with almost no sides ( for me it was NO SIDES).

You can follow this up with 10 Days of Clomid - but not required.

 

[antonio]

Thanks for responding so quickly.

Now, do you mean to do a cycle of just oxandrolone for 8 weeks?

What kind of results are you to expect from this cycle?

Thanks a lot.

 

[Big BX]

For a first cycle I would not do all orals or one oral, for that matter. Too hard on the liver and the gains seem to deminish. I did do an oral cycle my first time, 20mg dbol for 8 weeks, kept about 5 of 15 pounds. One oral and one injectable for the first time would be great. Injecting isn't that hard at all, after the first time . Here's a few I would consider for a first cycle:

Ox and test
dbol and deca or EQ
dbol and test
winny and test
winny and deca or EQ

There are many combinations, so pick that is right for you.

 

[Lift Chief]

Since it doesn't seem that you are looking for a huge muscle gain i would go with:
Dbol 25mg ED or even more mild would be Anavar at 40mg ED
EQ 400mg EW

The dbol should give you a pretty good gain in mass and the EQ should harden you up nicely. You could sub anavar for dbol if you dont want to gain weight that quickly.

--good luck

 

[JoBu]

Keeping in mind that you're looking for an oral cycle and that you appear to be interested in quality hard muscle gain:

35mg Dbol wks 1-4 - this will get you out of the gates quickly
150-200mg tren ed wks 1-8 - use the crushed pellets oral method
25-50mg Proviron ed wks 1-8

You can still throw in the winny if you like, but the tren will build lean mass while helping to cut some bf and the proviron will help keep you hard (muscles, not your dick). You might need a little help with mister happy due to the tren. Some will suggest test but if you want to stay oral, look into cialis for those times when you need to perform. My philosophy is to keep it simple.

Many will tell you the oral tren method is not worth it compared to injections, but there are many out there who have experienced good gains off oral...it's just less efficient so you need to use more. Depends on how you feel about taking a legal product, ordering a kit, converting it into liquid form (illegal to do) and injecting it at least every other day as compared to buying an extra couple cartridges. I'd prefer to spend an extra $60 myself.

Don't forget the extras...bromo, nolva, clomid. You shouldn't need nolva if you go with the Proviron for the entire cycle but better to have it on hand just in case.

Good luck bro

JoBu