what is your bf%. you don't say your height. can you see your abs. your bf is above 12% you are not 6 4 and you can't see your abs than you do not need to take winstrol. it is not magic that will turn you into a ripped statue. if you are already lean winstrol will give the muscles more vascularity and hardness. it is not a fat burner. you need to change diet and train hard in order to cut up, then you start using gear