first time...

[evilsupaman]

I am ready to juice. some background info...Right now i'm weighing 185lbs at 5'7.5'' with around 10% b/f at 21yrs old. I have been lifting on and off for about 5yrs now. I am yet to take any AS, but feel that I am ready mentally and just about there physically. I am somewhat of an all or nothing type of guy. I want to do the safest biggest cycle I can.

I really would like advice on what in particular you guys think would work best for me. I plan on juicing 2 or 3times a year from here on out. I don't want to start with too much on my first cycle and end up using incredible amounts by next year. I want to be a monster, but i do want to be as safe as possible while being able to afford it. I should be able to get just about anything and I haven't gotten my gear as of yet. I plan on starting a couple weeks into this upcoming school year.

As far as the side effects go, i don't think i'll be too prone to baldness considering no one on my moms side is bald at all. The balls shrinking etc isn't a big concern either for me, i want to be gigantic. I'm know i'll be prone to the acne and mood swings, but i just have to deal. My main concern is gyno. I have a small amount of natural gyno it seems...

I have been just reading the threads and posts a lot lately. I check out sites, but don't usually interact. I feel that it's time I should so I can get even better info from the net. I'm sure some guys would tell me to hold off and wait to juice, I have honestly held off and feel that now it's time.

I am really just looking for anyone with anything they would like to add. Not looking to get flamed, just looking for some advices--(you know you love when Arnold says that) of any kind. Tell me your good and bad experiences with your first cycle. I am not at all taking the use lightly. My preparation currently is rather rigorous and I want my body to be ready for this. I am not using the AS for sports at all. I do not plan on competing, i just want to be a REALLY BIG MO FO. So once again, if anyone has any questions or comments or advices, please feel free to just add or ask it. thanks

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[scout420]

Whats up dude I thought I'd throw a cycle at you that would be good to get you some good gains well in my opinion atleast.

week 1-4 30mg D-Bols

weeks 1-8 300mg Deca a week

weeks 6-11 WInny 50mg ED

Running Liquidx Threw out

Post cycle Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with clomid this will help you maintain as much gains as possible

 

[evilsupaman]

OK, I think it sounds good. I really am shooting to be a giant though. My goal is to be about 210 or so and very solid. I guess the hardest part with all of this is just choosing a cycle without going overboard(not to mention being able to afford it all). I mean i'm not gonna just do a cycle to spare my wallet, but in order to start in the next couple months I have to really to remember the expenses. I'm not sure I can afford 6 weeks of winny...

 

[gsxr]

This is what I ran for my first cycle and I got really good results:

Week 1-8 test enanth 500mg/wk
Week 1-8 eq 400mg/wk
Week 6-11 fina 75mg/ed
Start clomid therapy three days after stopping fina

Keep some nolvadex on hand just in case.

 

[RussianBro]

My goal is to be about 210 or so and very solid.

you'll be there in NO TIME... Don't be too greedy... Save up money for a good cycle, rather wasting on bullshit...
If you are that dedicated save for full cycle... It might run up to 500-600...

Don't forget to run Liquidex as scout420 said... Make it right, make it smart... You are working on yourself, so do a good job, do me a favor...

Good to see you here, bro...

 

[mike13555]

bro, go with: 300mg/wk test(enth or cyp) 1-9
300mg/wk deca(i'd say yellow tops) 1-8
if ur in a rush to see something use
25-30 mgs dball's a day for 4-6 wks
wks 11-14 clomid therapy, u should know it


if u r indeed ready mentally as u say u should be able to put on 25-30 lbs with this.

good luck, happy growing

 

[evilsupaman]

Thanks a lot for the advice bros. I was expecting this to run me about $600. I really think i'm goin a enth, deca and dbol cycle. I'm pumped to start, but really want to be around 195 when i begin it. Plus, there is a freak at one of my gyms at school and we have lifted a few times together. With him watching and spotting my confidence is extremely high. Well I will be back later tonight, work time.

 

[YoungAndWeak]

Supaman Im currently running cyp/deca this is my first real cycle as urs and trust me I want it just as bad as you.I started at 187 and now holding around 202-204 in 24 days in.No strength yet and Im sure alot of it is bloat even though Im using liquidex,Ill keep u posted when I see the strength.

 

[evilsupaman]

Keep me updated on how things are goin man. What do your workouts look like? Once i start i am shootin for 20-30 sets per bodypart doin around 3 a day.

 

[YoungAndWeak]

Workout schedule:monday-chest,tris,shoulders
wednesday-legs
friday-back,lats,traps,shoulders
For the big muscles I do about 2 exercises with 4-5 heavy sets each exercise.Smaller muscle I do 1 exercise and usually 3 medium weight sets.(10-12 reps)

 

[OAKBOX]

Go slow... Start out with something simple. Test and Fina, or Deca and Primo, or Dbol and test, or Dbol and Fina... No need to over do it on your first time out, right? Save the triple stacker's for your next cycle. Not only will your wallet thank you, but its good to just see how your body reacts to AS first, then poor that shit on later... Just My Opinion.

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

Test alone say 500-750mg a week or

Test @ 500mg plus one other drug of your choice at around 300-400mg a weeks (best picks EQ, tren, deca, and maybe a bit of d-bol to kick it all off)

add a touch of arimidex or fermara, and some clomid for after and ta da, your set!

 

[hr21361]

If you want 3 cycles a year, run them at 2 months on, 2 months off. Your first cycle is going to be your best with all those hungry virgin receptors so don't blow it. A excellent first cycle would be:

1-8 Sust 500mg
1-8 Deca 300mg
1-4 Dbol 25mg/d

As long as you train hard, get your rest and most importantly eat big (remember: EAT BIG TO GET BIG!) this cycle will put you into the 200's no problem.

 

[evilsupaman]

Once again, thanks for these replies. I like all the ideas. I personally have been set on the triple stack for the most part, but would love to do just the Dbol/Test or Test/Fina, I just want to know I'm gonna get huge. I figure with a Sust/Deca/Dbol or Test/Deca/Dbol I will react with great gains. So many choices aye As far as the 2 or 3 cycles a year goes. I am more inclined to doing 2 cycles I think. I'd rather be on longer while on and longer off when not using. So most likely just 2, 11 week cycles a year is my plan as of now, of course once I actually do my first I am sure things will change or start to look different. I feel that I have pretty good genetics and definately understand the different aspects such as eating and sleeping as being as important as the weight lifting itself. It's only been 5 years for me, I know some of you guys have been lifting for many more years and I probably seem like a baby, which I still am given some of your experience. Anyway guys, any more ideas or comments etc. are still really welcome.

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