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bigbolla23

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Wassup everybody,
i am about to start taking winstrol by itself. I am 240lbs 5'10. I have been involved in sports for about 10 years now. I am looking to comtinue my hard workouts, but i have decided i wanted to add winstrol to my routine. Im looking to be a solid 225-230 when i am done my cycle. I am kinda nervous abut taking steroids by i have decided this is wat i want to do. i will probably only use steroids for this one time, and discontinue after my first cycle. Does anyone have any suggestions or comments to help me reach my goal? Also could i still use nitro-tech as a protein source while i am on my cutting cycle??
 
bigbolla23 said:
Wassup everybody,
i am about to start taking winstrol by itself. I am 240lbs 5'10. I have been involved in sports for about 10 years now. I am looking to comtinue my hard workouts, but i have decided i wanted to add winstrol to my routine. Im looking to be a solid 225-230 when i am done my cycle. I am kinda nervous abut taking steroids by i have decided this is wat i want to do. i will probably only use steroids for this one time, and discontinue after my first cycle. Does anyone have any suggestions or comments to help me reach my goal? Also could i still use nitro-tech as a protein source while i am on my cutting cycle??


I wouldnt run it alone personally.
 
you can, i had a friend who does it hes a d1 wrestler, its amazing when youre a Low BF
but it is dumb for a first cycle
 
my friend has been using winstrol alone for the last month. he hasn't gained or lost any weight, but he's noticeably gained muscle and shredded body fat.
Now, he's almost done with his cycle, and has no idea about PCT post cycle therapy...
so... hopefully he'll take my advice and come join the board =]
good luck to ur cycle bro
 
I agree with Ghost it's a dumb first cycle.

First off u need to have very low bf to start with if u want to see the benefit of a winny only cycle.

Secondly it makes a difference if this cycle is an oral or an inj one. If u plan on injecting u'll likely get more out of a winny only run since it does entail more nitrogen retention than oral ingestion. The downside is the painful ED poking. Oral ingestion leads to a stronger synergy with test since the winstrol acts to free up test in ur system. This effect is more pronounced when u do it orally.

This means that the results from an oral wintrol only cycle likely will not match ur expectations unless ur very low on bf.
 
rambleon said:
I agree with Ghost it's a dumb first cycle.

First off u need to have very low bf to start with if u want to see the benefit of a Winstrol - stanozolol only cycle.

Secondly it makes a difference if this cycle is an oral or an inj one. If u plan on injecting u'll likely get more out of a Winstrol - stanozolol only run since it does entail more nitrogen retention than oral ingestion. The downside is the painful ED poking. Oral ingestion leads to a stronger synergy with test since the winstrol acts to free up test in ur system. This effect is more pronounced when u do it orally.

This means that the results from an oral wintrol only cycle likely will not match ur expectations unless ur very low on bf.

So you are saying when you are already running test, oral is better than Injectable?
 
rambleon said:
I agree with Ghost it's a dumb first cycle.

Not really. It really depends on his goals. Which is goals states is basically going to have him dropping BF% and cutting some weight. In a case like this, winstrol (or anavar or priimo) would be excellent. It is his first cycle and it is always good to start with one compound at a time just to see how your body reacts to it. Who knows what will happen if you add 2-3 in there and start having sides, and can't pinpoint which of them is doing it to you. At least doing winstrol by itself, if he experiences hairloss or sore joints, etc.. he will know it is directly the winstrol and therefore eliminate it from future use.
Also, winstrol will be excellent for his goals because what a lot of people do not realize around here is that when you are cutting bodyfat and dropping weight you are NOT going to build muscle at the same time. A diet deficient in calories and carbs simply is not going to be conducive to muscle growth because the environment is going to be lacking and not properly supported to enhance this process. A "dumb" first cycle for him would be something like test, dbol or deca... things that promote water retention when in fact, he is trying to go in the opposite direction



First off u need to have very low bf to start with if u want to see the benefit of a Winstrol - stanozolol only cycle.

Not necessarily. You can utilize winstrol to help get you to low BF in the first place. You will definately need some kind of anabolic protection to keep the muscle you have (at least as much as you can) while dieting down. In the low BF area, I would not even suggest using winstrol at all once you reach that stage because there are other compounds that can be utilized to a greater degree than winstrol without having to worry about the effects on your tendons and such.


Secondly it makes a difference if this cycle is an oral or an inj one. If u plan on injecting u'll likely get more out of a Winstrol - stanozolol only run since it does entail more nitrogen retention than oral ingestion. The downside is the painful ED poking. Oral ingestion leads to a stronger synergy with test since the winstrol acts to free up test in ur system. This effect is more pronounced when u do it orally.

Personally, I never saw a difference and I have run winstrol 34 weeks before in both modes, injects and orals.

This means that the results from an oral wintrol only cycle likely will not match ur expectations unless ur very low on bf.

Read his goals again, his goal is to get down to low BF in the first place. Winstrol would be excellent for this purpose. The advantages is that it is much cheaper than anavar and less likely to be underdosed or flat out fake. It is a better choice that using something else like tren. Prim.o? Forget it.. good luck finding that. Good luck affording it too. And considering the harsher alternatives of playing around with T3, the headaches from clen, DNP - fuck that... winstrol seems the most solid choice available to him.


This is the arguement for the flip side of the coin.

Personally if I were deciding this guys cycle for him, I would put him on winstrol and Albuteral. Cardio in the mornings on empty stomach 20 mins EOD for 3 weeks, then bump up to 30mins EOD for 3 weeks, then bump up to 40mins EOD for three weeks OR 30 mins ED (6 days week).

Keeping his training with reps in the 10-12 range on all exercises, moderate amount of sets, with heavy BCAA/Arginine/Caffiene/ACL support 4x a day.

He WILL see improvements in line with his expectations at this rate.
 
AAP said:
This is the arguement for the flip side of the coin.

Personally if I were deciding this guys cycle for him, I would put him on winstrol and Albuteral. Cardio in the mornings on empty stomach 20 mins EOD for 3 weeks, then bump up to 30mins EOD for 3 weeks, then bump up to 40mins EOD for three weeks OR 30 mins ED (6 days week).

Keeping his training with reps in the 10-12 range on all exercises, moderate amount of sets, with heavy BCAA/Arginine/Caffiene/ACL support 4x a day.

He WILL see improvements in line with his expectations at this rate.

well now that AAP has ripped my post apart...

I just want to say a few things: I NEVER suggest stacking for a first run. I was actually thinking of primo only.

The argument about the difference between oral and inj winny is based upon an article by AR. I bet u've read it AAP.

The argument about winny only being worth it with low BF is just my own experience. If AAP says its good for getting there in the first place i bow to his greater experience.

My idea was primo because it works so well on a restricted diet.
 
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