First time Tren cycle - Please help

[Nate123]

Hi Guys,

Stats:

32 years
Body mass: 88 kg
Height: 1.83 m
Bf %: 11 %

Goal: Lean bulk

This will be my 5th cycle but first time Tren user.

Proposed cycle:

Week 1 - 2:

1 ml Test combo 350 (Monday & Thursday) = 700 mg per week
1ml Equi 250 (Monday & Thursday) = 500 mg per week
1/2 ml Tren 200 Enanthate (Monday & Thursday) = 200 mg per week
2 tables proviron per day
1 tablet Nolvadex per day
1 off cabaser per week
3mg ketotifen per day

Week 3 - 12: Exactly the same as above ONLY removing the Novadex out of cycle

PCT:

Ovidrel
Novadex
Aromasin
Clomid

Need to first calculate the half life before dasages of PCT

My diet is spot on
Training is good

Just need advice on cycle. Tren dosage is that enough? Its my first time using Tren

 

[Ripp42]

Hi Guys,

Stats:

32 years
Body mass: 88 kg
Height: 1.83 m
Bf %: 11 %

Goal: Lean bulk

This will be my 5th cycle but first time Tren user.

Proposed cycle:

Week 1 - 2:

1 ml Test combo 350 (Monday & Thursday) = 700 mg per week
1ml Equi 250 (Monday & Thursday) = 500 mg per week
1/2 ml Tren 200 Enanthate (Monday & Thursday) = 200 mg per week
2 tables proviron per day
1 tablet Nolvadex per day
1 off cabaser per week
3mg ketotifen per day

Week 3 - 12: Exactly the same as above ONLY removing the Novadex out of cycle

PCT:

Ovidrel
Novadex
Aromasin
Clomid

Need to first calculate the half life before dasages of PCT

My diet is spot on
Training is good

Just need advice on cycle. Tren dosage is that enough? Its my first time using Tren

Id go 1ml tren x 2 400 ah week
Would use tren a if sides get serious it will be out in 3 days.

Tren e 2 weeks 10.5 to be exact.

Do not run nolva with tren nor aromasin! Known to kill sex drive!

Run caber and hcg while on cyc. That all you need. You could run the provion or run adex or forma better yet.

Cant tell you when to start pct cause wth is test combo? We need esters? Test c, e, p?

Lean bulking? Too much test imo. Run 500mg ah week 400 of tren.

What is equi? Eq? Equipoise?

You've got alot of stuff n there you dont need.

Study tren more. You really should run alot of natural supps with it. It jacks up you lh, cortizol levels, and t3 an taurine....

This whole cyc needs to be reconstucked imo

500 of test ah week 1-? What ester?
300-400 of tren ah week only for 06 weeks
400-600 of eq ah week 12-16 weeks

On cyc caber, hcg, adex, forma, fish/krill oil, vit c, multi vit, b12, taurine, flaxseed, arginine, b6.

For pct: pct unleashed, forma, clomid, forskilin, life extenion one with chromium and zinc.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I think moderate dose test/tren/eq is hard to beat for a clean bulk. Tren is a harsh master and I disagree with the above post. 400mg a week is something to build up to on tren after you assess your side effects at a lower dose. 200mg a week will add quality and strength gains to your bulk. No need to go overboard the first time using it, and keep an eye on your lipid profile as tren can drop your HDL quite low.

 

[brownbrown]

I think moderate dose test/tren/eq is hard to beat for a clean bulk. Tren is a harsh master and I disagree with the above post. 400mg a week is something to build up to on tren after you assess your side effects at a lower dose. 200mg a week will add quality and strength gains to your bulk. No need to go overboard the first time using it, and keep an eye on your lipid profile as tren can drop your HDL quite low.

I agree 100%.

At 300 to 400mg+ a week, be ready for some wet sheet changes (night sweats).

 

[hydez27]

Currently on my first tren cycle and its day 6 last night i woke up drenched, runnin it at 400 mgs a week

 

[brownbrown]

Currently on my first tren cycle and its day 6 last night i woke up drenched, runnin it at 400 mgs a week

LOL, welcome to the club.. I put a towel on my sheets before bed. so all I have to do is switch it and go the hell back to sleep.
Its impossible for me to sleep on cold wet sheets.

 

[Nate123]

Thanks guys!

I will then keep it at 200mgs per week and if its goes well I will up it to maybe 400 mgs per week depending on sides.

To answer questions:

Test combo (Nomad brand) is
Testosterones: Isocaproate 20mg/ml, Phenylpropionate 20mg/ml, Propionate 20mg/ml,
Cypionate 40mg/ml, Enanthate 40mg/ml, Decaonate 90mg/ml, Undecyleonate 70mg/ml
Trade name: Nomatest Combo

Is actually 300 mgs. Excellent quality and good for bulking

 

[RADAR]

Thanks guys!

I will then keep it at 200mgs per week and if its goes well I will up it to maybe 400 mgs per week depending on sides.

To answer questions:

Test combo (Nomad brand) is
Testosterones: Isocaproate 20mg/ml, Phenylpropionate 20mg/ml, Propionate 20mg/ml,
Cypionate 40mg/ml, Enanthate 40mg/ml, Decaonate 90mg/ml, Undecyleonate 70mg/ml
Trade name: Nomatest Combo

Is actually 300 mgs. Excellent quality and good for bulking

Good call on keeping tren dosages at 200 a wk, you can still make Great gains on it and have less sides.

 

[Ripp42]

At 25mg ah day thats 250mg ah week of tren!

Your at 200.

Tren is 6x more potent. Think about it you can always go more. My first cyc was 360 ah week.

Ppl get al uptight about tren yes their can be serious sides but some over rated. Night sweats i get that shit with any form of aas!

 

[Hit_the_weightS]

I have trouble sleeping natty and get sweats too, I put it down to the fact I train late evening due to work.

My fiancé says I'm like a radiator constantly emulating heat even when it's cold.
It must be all the food I eat, my body is like a god damn protein furnace lol


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