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First Time Deca User: Need Help !

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Cabra

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I am about to start my first cycle of Deca and needed some advice.

I am 6'4", 205 pounds (lean/athletic build). My goal is to put on a bit more mass using only Deca and over-the-counter supplements including protien, creatine, & glutamine.

My diet and workout program are good, and I wanted to introduce Deca into my routine to add the much needed mass.

I planned on starting with 250 mg/week for the first 4 weeks, then moving up to 300 mg for 4 weeks. After that, I wanted to continue for at least another 8 weeks at 350 mg/week.

Can anyone recommend a weekly dosage and length of a total cycle.

Please help !! Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks !

Cabra
 
I'm in the third week of my first deca/sust/dbol cycle. I use deca doses as follows:

week 1-2 200MG
week 3-6 400MG
week 7 600MG
week 8-9 400MG

If you want to gain some extra lbs add sust to your cycle:

week 1-4 250MG
week 5-8 500MG
week 9 250MG

This happens to be the cycle I'm doing. No deca-dick yet, I'm still as horny as usual (must be the proviron).
 
First Time Deca User...Deca Dick ?

Will I see decent gains from a Deca only cycle ?
Or will I just end up with a limp dick.
Is Deca Dick as bad as many people say it is ?
 
Please hang out and read awhile, if you do you can better answer those questions yourself and you will learn helpful informatin to get the most from your cycle. Many do fine on deca only, it's highly individual but most prefer it with test as well (I have yet to incorporate deca). pyramiding or 'ramping' up dossage of AS (their are other things you do) is kind of old school. Based upon my research I would run it strait up 400mg a week for 10 weeks, maybe a tad less if you decide to run it with test. Diet is more important than the gear, get a plan together for it too. Good luck
 
Another "deca - dick" story...
to be continued...:D


Do me a favor and do some search before you start that cycle, bro...
It's a harsh cycle for the first try... I guess if you don't have a gf or a wife and not affraid to be "dick-dead" for 16 weeks, then go for it...

P.S. what also made me think - you mention you are lean... why deca? just run ol, plain test to gain some mass... save that deca for another cycle, but get some test...
 
Will I see decent gains from just Deca with minimal side effects ?
I'd like to get my strength up and be able to put up more weight and put on more size without test.
 
My first cycle was 300 mgs. a wk. of Deca and 250 mgs. of Sustanon every 5 days. I ran it for 10 wks. and gained 10 lbs. and felt that I had lost some bodyfat but I don't know what my % was. Before the 3rd wk. was up after my last shot, I had already lost 12 lbs. and I still did the clomid but it was too late. My next cycle was 600 mgs. a wk. of equipose and 400 mgs. a wk. of Testosteron Cypionate that I ran for 12 wks. I gained 27 lbs. and my strength jumped! I didn't have any clomid for this cycle and I've been off of it for 4 months now and haven't lost any size or strength. I'm 6 ft. 1 in. and 245 lbs. now and happy :)
 
Cabra said:
Will I see decent gains from just Deca with minimal side effects ?
I'd like to get my strength up and be able to put up more weight and put on more size without test.
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Deca alone will work just fine bro. Many people have done it with no deca dick...just keep doses sane. Maybe have a little test on hand and if you loose your sex drive then do 100 of test per week.

Deca at 400/week will be very nice and give a nice slow but steady gain with no sides to speak of. You will keep the gains to as little of it will be water. Gyno from this dose of deca is almost unheard of. Expect to keep at least 10 pounds or more of pure muscle. Strength will go way up too bro.
Run it for about 10 weeks.
Use some HCG at 500 iu's per day during the last two weeks of the cycle in order to get the testes back to optimal size so they can respond to LH well once you strat clomid. Inject the stuff either IM or sub q in the lower belly fat.
Clomid starts three weeks after the last shot of deca at 300mg on day one in divided doses and then 50 per day for at least 4 weeks.
Good luck.

RG:)
 
On a deca only cycle will 100mg of test thrown in the mix help my sex drive and help to avoid deca dick ?
 
Cabra said:
Will I see decent gains from just Deca with minimal side effects ?
I'd like to get my strength up and be able to put up more weight and put on more size without test.
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Yes
 
I did a Deca only cycle and all I got was problems at the end of the cycle.I had no sex drive what so ever for about three months afterwards and I even used clomid with little effect.I would have to say to mix some test in the cycle you will get better gains and less noodle dick.
 
Cabra said:
On a deca only cycle will 100mg of test thrown in the mix help my sex drive and help to avoid deca dick ?
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Why don't you sack up and do the test with it? Just run a simple test like Propionate and run low doses 200mg for about 8 weeks. You will not have that many sides and your gains will come much quicker. And quit worrying about your sex drive, Ali can always call me if she needs some. j/k :p I did Deca only and had no problems with Deca dick, stop worrying about it and start your cycle. Your chest looks like a wet blanket. :bigkiss:



Butler
 
My opinion but im no pro.

Dude I just popped my cherry this summer juice cherry that is. I wanted to do a deca only cycle. About 4 weeks in at 200 mgs a week my anaconda lost its pep. And lemme tell u It never ever loses its finesse. Keep some test on hand. At week 5 I started the sust and really blew up. I hear anything over 12 weeks on deca is too long. Try 8. And load up on the deca your first 4 weeks start with like 400 then down to 200 because shit takes a while to kick in and start the test if you lose your boy down under.

If i could do it over I would of

deca 400 weeks 1-4
deca 200 weeks 4-8
sust 250 weeks 4-12

also not running the deca from weeks 8-12 lets the deca get outta your system a little. So its easier to recover. If possible throw in an oral Like Var or some winny for weeks 6,8-12 to cut up and slim down a little. Its good cause its short acting.

Thats my input Im a newbie some of the vets might totally disagree, But thats what i would do all over agin If I had my choice.
 
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Re: First Time Deca User...Deca Dick ?

Cabra said:
Will I see decent gains from a Deca only cycle ?
Or will I just end up with a limp dick.
Is Deca Dick as bad as many people say it is ?
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Bro I was getting bigger on the deca but after I added the sust. Wow you can see the difference before your eyes. I wished I started it earlier. Get some cheap omna or sust just in case your dick falls off like most of use except Genarr3(must be related to peter north).

I saw decent gains after 4 weeks. but started sust late like week 6 or 7 and was like wow. All the mamis were feelin me up.

Also I did retain water from the test not the deca. I believe I kept alot of the gains from the DECA not the test.

Fuck creatine!! Just buy more protein like Isopure, Ribeye steaks, and scrod instead. Eat smart
 
After some consideration, Im thinking a combo of test and deca would be the best route.

Propionate perhaps. Anyone have any opinions on a Deca & Propionate cycle ?

Hey Butler...Get Bent ! :finger:
 
Cabra said:
After some consideration, Im thinking a combo of test and deca would be the best route.

Propionate perhaps. Anyone have any opinions on a Deca & Propionate cycle ?

Hey Butler...Get Bent ! :finger:
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Go with a long ester, such as cyp or enanthate. Why take an injection EOD or ED when you could just do 2 injections a week?


best of luck
 
guards said:


Go with a long ester, such as cyp or enanthate. Why take an injection EOD or ED when you could just do 2 injections a week?


best of luck
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Exactly, you don't want your first experience to be one you remember as being a pincushion. I would keep the total gear intake to under 500 mg/week though.
 
Id like to throw in enough Test to increase my libido and help out with some additional mass.

Will I see major side effects from a low dosage of Test (~100mg)

Cabra
 
Cabra said:
Id like to throw in enough Test to increase my libido and help out with some additional mass.

Will I see major side effects from a low dosage of Test (~100mg)

Cabra
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Probably not, but its a real individual thing. You natural test is producing ~30-70 mg/week of test so 100 mg. minus the ester weight is not going to make much difference.
 
The Terminator said:


Probably not, but its a real individual thing. You natural test is producing ~30-70 mg/week of test so 100 mg. minus the ester weight is not going to make much difference.
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If anything, i would lower the deca dose and up the test.

EG

deca @ 300 mg/week for 10 weeks
test @ 400 mg/week for 10 weeks


Maybe even add in a little dbol at the start to kick it off.
 
The Terminator said:

That's exactly what I was thinking...
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Great minds think alike:)
 
Cabra said:
I am about to start my first cycle of Deca and needed some advice.

I am 6'4", 205 pounds (lean/athletic build). My goal is to put on a bit more mass using only Deca and over-the-counter supplements including protien, creatine, & glutamine.

My diet and workout program are good, and I wanted to introduce Deca into my routine to add the much needed mass.

I planned on starting with 250 mg/week for the first 4 weeks, then moving up to 300 mg for 4 weeks. After that, I wanted to continue for at least another 8 weeks at 350 mg/week.

Can anyone recommend a weekly dosage and length of a total cycle.

Please help !! Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks !

Cabra
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I have used Deca-only and it is a good choice. I used Nolva with it as I do with everything! Why not?? I went 200mg/week up to 400mg/week, about a seven week cycle. For you, as you seem to be planning a longer cycle, I would go 10 weeks and, if you haven't plateaued by then, then keep running it and taper it off after you plateau. 16 weeks does sound fairly looonnnggg. 12 weeks is probably long enough. Don't forget Clomid and/or HCG at the end. You will need it! You probably should take some test too during the cycle for libido/erection. If you don't want a lot of test in your system, take a handful of d-bol or methyl-test or a shot of test suspension 1-2 hours before you think you will have sex. That way you'll have test in your system for libido/erection. However that may not let you be spontaneous. So, a weekly inject of 250 mg would keep you armed and ready at all times. Even then, maybe still take some more fast-acting test before sex. Oh yeah, take Viagra with it and you may be able to go for hour(s). It's the truth! If you rarely have sex at the moment, for whatever reason, then maybe you don't need test. If so, you won't be spanking the monkey either--Ha Ha Ha. Good luck.
 
guards said:


Go with a long ester, such as cyp or enanthate. Why take an injection EOD or ED when you could just do 2 injections a week?


best of luck
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This is what you want. I'd go with Test Enanthate (just from personal experience) because it seems to add more mass for me. Plus it should be pretty easy to get.
 
Only a week on deca and Ive already notived my appetite go up. Is this normal or just a placebo effect ?

From what I've gathered, it will take a few weeks for the deca to kick in. During my deca cycle I will also be taking creatine and glutamine. Can anyone recommend any other over the counter supplements that would be beneficial during this cycle.

Thanks !

Cabra
 
I myself have been considering doing a test/deca cycle, and I think that you'd get better results if you stacked the two. The way I planned on running the two togeather would be:
Sustanon 250 mg/ week
Deca 200 mg/ week
HCG 500ui everyday for the last two weeks of the cycle
post cycle clomid therapy
Also dont froget to have nolva onhand in case of gyno, its always good to have around. Ive also been told that injecting two times a week in split incriments is better than injecting once a week. Its supposed to keep the blood hormone levels at a more desirable level. I think this would be a good first cycle that you should consider. Research it and good luck bro.
SuperchrgedE
 
8th Week of Deca only Cycle

Im in my 8th week of my Deca only cycle.
I have remained at 400 mg/week and am thinking about bumping up to 450mg. I also plan on extending my cycle from 12 to 14 weeks. I have made decent gains so far, adding 10 lbs. and seeing my strength go way up.

Any advice for the continuation of my cycle ?

Anything else I can incorporate into my cycle ?
 
iam looking for the same thing .. iam thinking about taking Deca .. do u have any info on D-bol?



Cabra said:
Will I see decent gains from just Deca with minimal side effects ?
I'd like to get my strength up and be able to put up more weight and put on more size without test.
Click to expand...
 
Just my expirence....my first cycle was deca only, did not get the dreaded "DD" however it made me very depressed. Now secound cycle was different I added test and felt on top of the world.

hope you know with prop. you need to inject daily. If this is something your not interested in go with Cyp or Enth.
 
If you're going with prop then you might as well use NPP rather than deca.

I just noticed that this is your first cycle. Since your goals are simple, keep the cycle simple: Test enan or cyp, 250mg every four days for 8-10 weeks. Do your PCT research.

I also just noticed that you're a couple of months into this cycle ;)

Ho hum.
 
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