First test e cycle improvements?

[Dean000]

Test e 500mg 1-12
Hcg 500ui each week 1-12
Arimidex 0.25 eod when needed and increased if needed
Clomid 25/25/25/25 .14-20
Unleashed 3caps a day 1-12
Hcgenerate 5caps a day 14-20
post cycle 3caps a day14-20
Powerchews 18-20

This is my planned cycle ? Is there any thing I've missed or could add?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Age? Stats? Experience?

 

[Dean000]

I'm 25 been lifting for 3years , 190pounds 6foot tall.
Currently having 3200 carlories slowly bulking . Going to increase to 4500 on cycle

 

[burnthiscorpse]

It would seem at 6ft tall your very small? I used to be 180-190 and I remember it well. If you have been lifting for 3 years with any amount of seriousness and intensity and correct diet I would imagine you should be over 200? Unless you started at 150 lb?


As for you cycle.... save the HCG for week 5-6. No need for it sooner. Just throwing $$ away.

 

[notjake11]

Shouldn't the unleashed be saved for PCT instead of on cycle?

 

[Dean000]

Yeah that's a mistake gonna take unleashed week 14-20

 

[joeblow12345]

I would throw an oral kicker in there so you can gain from the beginning. Katana or epi are good ph options, or if you don't mind a little bloat dbol is good. I'd run the hcgen on cycle and blast the hcg before pct.


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[burnthiscorpse]

If your smart you'll run Unleashed throughout the cycle. It makes a difference. I've done it.

 

[Dean000]

Would I not become tolerant to it ? Is there anything I cud run through cycle for support ? Would proviron have similar effect?

 

[Dean000]

Also could I use hcgenerate weeks 4 to 20 instead of the hcg?

 

[joeblow12345]

Would I not become tolerant to it ? Is there anything I cud run through cycle for support ? Would proviron have similar effect?

You could go back and forth with unleashed and proviron. I wouldn't run proviron in pct though. The effects are very similar but proviron is an aas and can be suppressive.


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[burnthiscorpse]

Yes you an run hcgenerate instead of hcg. I would run it right through till the end of pct. Expensive but worth it. You won't become tolerant to unleashed. It increases your free T and will give you a little more out of your test.

Honesty if this is your first cycle you would get the same results on half the test your planning on using.

 

[Dean000]

The unleashed and hcgenerate running through cycle , will I start taking them from beginning or start about week 5?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

The unleashed and hcgenerate running through cycle , will I start taking them from beginning or start about week 5?

Personally.....Unleashed from the start. HCgenerate week 5 or 6 when you start to notice shrinkage.

 

[Dean000]

Okay thanks very much for help here is planned cycle
Test 500mg week 1-12
Unleashed week 1-20
Hcgenerate week 6-20
Clomid week 16-20
Post cycle 16-20
Going use n2 sampoo to hopefully reduce hairloss

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Like I said.....and you will ignore......250mg wk for a first cycle will absolutely equal the same gains that 500 mg wk will yield.

I don't understand why new guys are so into "more is better" mind set.

Why not use 250 and make great gains. Then go to 375 for cycle 2. Then by cycle 3 you will be at 500 mg. You will have 2 cycles of gains under your belt before you hit 500mg wk.
Real bodybuilders from the "golden age" that we all would kill to look like that busted their balls in the gym and made killer gains on minimal juice didn't have a modern more is better attitude. Doesn't matter anyways. Your gonna do what your gonna do.

 

[goin on 4T]

Because there are 18 year olds on other forums doing stupid shit and they just can't help themselves.


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[Dean000]

Going to do 350mg a week