first sus/tren ace cycle

[Moussa T]

Age 30
Height 173 cm
weight 74
BF% 14


here is my plan for my first cycle , prev cycle was anavar only 60 mg for 8 week.

cycle :

Week 1-10 250 sustanon 250 - 125 e3d
Week 1-8 150 trenbolone ace - 75 e3d
Week 8-12: winstrol 40 mg ed




pct

clomid , daa
hcg , caber and multivit on cycle

im just careful with my first cycle i dont want higher test , is that ok ? cause ive seen in so many forms ppl saying test should be equal or higher or even less that tren ?

thanks in advance

 

[Moussa T]

forma
post cycle/Unleashed any alternative ? cant get hands on them

 

[oxymoron]

Even with that very low dose of tren I would leave it out.
Just stick with the test and winny for ur first cycle. U said ur comfy with that test dose but i would bump it up a tad, say 175 e3d would be nicer.


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[dylangemelli]

dont add nolva to anything but your toilet... fuck... horrible fucking advice...

 

[bigbassturd]

cycle just run sust and winny, pct add nolva (not need for tren)

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Fuck that, nolva has no place in recovery from a steroid cycle.

That shit is garbage.

 

[joeblow12345]

Sus for 10 weeks is a waste IMO. Run it at least 12 if not 16 weeks. Run The winny on the back end and kick it off with an oral or prop.


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[MattJS]

Drop the tren, it needs to be shot EOD minimum and can have nasty sides which are harder to deal with for a beginner, apart from that I like your cycle, simple and effective if you make the best of your diet and training... Just need to get your PCT sorted now, why can't you get the post cycle/unleashed?

 

[nickb86]

just run sustanon for 12 weeks or more if you like and thatll be good, i would increase the dosage to 500mg/wk and maybe add some var on the end if you want aswell, keep it simple and recover well and youll be happy.
i would run some forma-stanzol alongside your pct buddy.

 

[Moussa T]

thank you guys for all the advices , i think i will pump sustanon to 175 e3d for 12 weeks , what do you guys think to end up my cycle with var or winstrol ? i dont wanna look bloated at the end of my cycle

would clomid be a better idea for pct ? cuz so many different ideas about clomid or nolva

 

[Moussa T]

whats the minimum effective dosage of winstrol to run?

 

[dylangemelli]

run winstrol at 50 mg day

 

[burnthiscorpse]

thank you guys for all the advices , i think i will pump sustanon to 175 e3d for 12 weeks , what do you guys think to end up my cycle with var or winstrol ? i dont wanna look bloated at the end of my cycle

would clomid be a better idea for pct ? cuz so many different ideas about clomid or nolva

If you dont want to look bloated then eat clean and correctly. Do cardio 3-4 days a week. Problem solved.

 

[oxymoron]

So u were saying that u can't get ur hands on forma stanozolol? Is that because of your location or its out of stock?


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[goin on 4T]

cycle just run sust and winny, pct add nolva (not need for tren)

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You are giving shit advice again!

 

[Jack steel]

I'm currently running 40mg winstrol every day and getting noticeable results. Its not as great as 50mg but its what i was hoping for when i chose the lower dose. Im not disappointed. Strength is great and pumps are great. I don't think I would try to do less than 40 though.

 

[jondale123]

For the full effects of sust. I feel it has to be shot every other day to keep your blood levels stable and to get the full benifit of the total compound.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

For the full effects of sust. I feel it has to be shot every other day to keep your blood levels stable and to get the full benifit of the total compound.

To get the benefits of 30mg of prop? There are two ways to run sust.

If you want to run it EOD thats fine if your looking to level off at around 800-850mg test wk.

Otherwise once or twice a week is fine. The amounts of test in each ester that are in it are at those amounts to allow a steady release of test as opposed to a spike.
Having sust with 100mg of prop in it would be stupid. It would defeat the purpose and definatley be a waste if not done eod.
But the traditional sust 250 which is 30mg prop and 60mg of phenyl prop are designed to start working immediatley but also build to peak levels evenly and slowly so as one ester tapers off the next in line is taking effect.
Sust can obviously be used by anyone at any level. It was my first cycle. But I think its better suited to more advanced users for EOD or even ED purposes that need to run a lot more test than the average gym rat. Either way people make too much of the esters in sust. Just run sust as one would any other long ester test. But thats just my .02

 

[bigbassturd]

For the full effects of sust. I feel it has to be shot every other day to keep your blood levels stable and to get the full benifit of the total compound.

sust is actually designed for extended release. The multiple injects per week is a broscience myth

 

[Moussa T]

thank you mates for sharing ideas , honestly ive heard from many guys who used sustanon and still do , most of them inject once e/w and they said it can be injected eod or e3d if im using more than 500 but in my case they recommended once e/w , thats why i came here to share and be sure of what they have told me if was right or not

 

[Moussa T]

thank u dylan

 

[Moussa T]

So u were saying that u can't get ur hands on forma stanozolol? Is that because of your location or its out of stock?
yes cuz of my location