First PCT Few Questions

[pip88]

Ok im am doing my first cycle and i have been running 250 test e monday and thursday with dbol for the first 4 weeks and coming up this monday with be the last day of dbol and i had some questions about my pct and a proper time to start. I was going to use clomid aswell as Testosterone Recovery Stack is this a ok idea and when should i start the clomid maybe before i start the test recovery stack or at the same time? I also have nolva i could ad in? Thanks

 

[HAYEZ]

how long do you plan to run the test?

 

[pip88]

10 weeks

 

[HAYEZ]

10 days after yoru last shot start pct
you should have some hcg on hand
hcg 500iu e3d or e4d 4-11.5
or hcg 500iu eod last 2 weeks
i prefer nolva over clomid
nolva 60mg 7 days
nolva 40mg 14 days
pp recovery stack would be a gret add on...
i have only used sustain but i feel it was beneficial in my last pct
most important thing is the hcg to kickstart the testes...followed by standard pct...

 

[pip88]

well how can i run clomid for my pct?

 

[HAYEZ]

I don't use clomid have to wait for someone else to chime in,....not many have used it for pct in a while

 

[Primordial Performance]

well how can i run clomid for my pct?

Stack it with the Testosterone Recovery Stack at 25mg/day. Start both 2 weeks after your last shot and use them for 30 days.

IMO its best to use hCG during the cycle. Shoot 500iu once a week for the 6 weeks in the middle of the cycle and your recovery will be a breeze. (you wont need it for PCT if you use it during the cycle)

-Pp

 

[Nelson Montana]

Clomid's a crapshoot with too many sides. HCG, dex, UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE and Sustain. That's the best PCT around.

 

[pip88]

well i dont have hcg available to me so that is why i am trying to incorparate everything i have to make sure i keep my gains.

 

[HAYEZ]

well i dont have hcg available to me so that is why i am trying to incorparate everything i have to make sure i keep my gains.

making sure you keep your gains would be having the right items in your possession before you start day 1 of the cycle...no offence but thats what gets everyone in trouble with there cycles they piece together things here and there and expect it to work properly.
keep in mind for your next cycle to get everything before you start!


"How To Take Clomid
Clomid has a long half-life (possibly 5 days), so there is no need to split up doses throughout the day. If Sustanon has been used and Clomid is commenced 3 weeks after the last injection, I would estimate that androgen levels are low enough to start sending the correct signals. If androgen levels are still a little high, we need to start at a high enough amount that will work or help, even if androgen levels are still a little high. Try 300mg on day 1; then use 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days."
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...-cycle-recovery-please-keep-stuck-327882.html

 

[littleb]

I dont ever front load clomid, just 50mg a day along with 20mg a day nolva.. I dont get any sides from the clomid doing it that way...

 

[Nelson Montana]

well i dont have hcg available to me so that is why i am trying to incorparate everything i have to make sure i keep my gains.

Then use everything I recommended but without HCG.

There's a reason why these things are said. When people try to make up their own substitutions, that's when sub par results occur.

 

[HAYEZ]

Then use everything I recommended but without HCG.

There's a reason why these things are said. When people try to make up their own substitutions, that's when sub par results occur.