First Injectable Cycle

[RickO'Shea]

Hey Guys Right now I'm on Needto's Shredder Stack and I'm Freakin loving the results! I'm considering down the road after pct and a couple months off that I would do some injectables... I know test is usually the way to go for your first cycle, but my question is with me doing the beast and katana, which are real steroids, is Test E or P like the best way to go or can I run something like EQ or Primo or whatever?

 

[xavier_247]

Anything for your for cycle will make you gain good.
Most stayed with a Test ester because its generally safe easily controlled through experience.
Less injections are required especially for a first time pinner which can be scary.
Just be sure that whatever you choose the quantities are not over the top.
Less is always better than more with gear, that way you can gauge the sides and go from there.
Test P is never a bad choice and one of the most versatile gear out there.
EQ is not really a beginners gear as many say they are disappointed with the results and take massive quantities the second time around.
Prop and Anavar can do miracles if everything else is right such as training, desire and diet.
I'm not a fan of high andro gear because I'm sensitive and bloat easily.
Remember PCT PCT PCT and have your safety aids with you all the way although you shouldn't need it because you're gonna does smartly.
Speak with Needto and Nelson they're smart guys and give honest opinions to back some of my content up.

 

[RickO'Shea]

Thanks Man I really Appreciate it! I'm not looking at really bulking up just maybe ten pounds but really ripped. I was maybe thinking about extending my cycle I'm on now. I have heard nothin but good things on anavar if you can heft the cost. Thanks again man. I'll give needto a holla

 

[xavier_247]

Prop alone will put 10lbs without literally having to train.
For your modest and realistic goals 250-350mg of Prop and 40mg of Anavar ED will work wonders.
If Anavar is that expensive for you to be on for approx 8 weeks then Winni 50mg EOD should be fine.
Start PCT no later than 3 days after your last shot with such short esters and here's the kicker.
Do Clen in the middle or near the end of your PCT for 2 weeks on and off to help keep gains and shed some more.
This is something you can def do clean with no gear, the gear will just make it easier and faster if controlled and no bloat.
If you start to bloat watch you sodium and double your intake of water while using small amounts of Adex/Femera on cycle.
Oh Needto hates Winny BTW......
Safety first and remember grow slow to moderate that way everyone and their mothers don't see you looking like a monster.
This can save you wardrobe money as well.
Bloating size is not muscle it's what's underneath if anything at all so control it and you'll avoid stretch marks etc....

 

[joe d]

Hey Guys Right now I'm on Needto's Shredder Stack and I'm Freakin loving the results! I'm considering down the road after pct and a couple months off that I would do some injectables... I know test is usually the way to go for your first cycle, but my question is with me doing the beast and katana, which are real steroids, is Test E or P like the best way to go or can I run something like EQ or Primo or whatever?

100mg prop eod
50mg winny ed for 6 wks
take liver support through cycle and pct
keep adex in case you get gyno or to much bloat (i doubt you will)
day after last inject start pct
wk 1-2 20mg nolva ed
wk 2-4 10mg nolva ed
wk 1-4 pp trs
1-4 unleashed and post cycle

that will help you to be able to grow some muscle and lose fat while you diet and train towards your goals.

 

[RickO'Shea]

Sweet all this info is Super Good guys!!! Let me throw you another scenario out. I know other members have run beast as like a "kickstart" to a cycle. My question is could I do that? and what would the cycle look like, How much, how long?, etc....etc....

 

[joe d]

Sweet all this info is Super Good guys!!! Let me throw you another scenario out. I know other members have run beast as like a "kickstart" to a cycle. My question is could I do that? and what would the cycle look like, How much, how long?, etc....etc....

you could remove the winny from the cycle i suggested abd put beastdrol in its place at its suggested dosage.

 

[RickO'Shea]

you could remove the winny from the cycle i suggested abd put beastdrol in its place at its suggested dosage.

Cool cool man. How is Prop on bloat? I really just want to stay really lean. I'm trying to hit 5-6% Bodyfat which is really tough. I'm at 9 right now, and I know when I cut more I dont want to waste any muscle. I'm assuming that prop is Testosterone Propionate right? I know stupid question... Also The cycle you suggested is six weeks? I've been on the shredder stack for a week now I'm cool with starting prop in like a week or so? I need the time to get it and PCT and all the other stuff...

Thanks Joe D!

 

[sweed]

Hey Rick!
Just do a test cycle at 300mgs EW, test enanthate. That will get you 10 lbs, and it's be cheap compared to primo!
Just do that for 10 weeks and you'll be all set!

Good Bro right here on the Forums, very nice guy!

 

[joe d]

Cool cool man. How is Prop on bloat? I really just want to stay really lean. I'm trying to hit 5-6% Bodyfat which is really tough. I'm at 9 right now, and I know when I cut more I dont want to waste any muscle. I'm assuming that prop is Testosterone Propionate right? I know stupid question... Also The cycle you suggested is six weeks? I've been on the shredder stack for a week now I'm cool with starting prop in like a week or so? I need the time to get it and PCT and all the other stuff...

Thanks Joe D!

prop is better than e sust and c on bloat. the only better is suspension but dont do that yet. get some adex and run it at .5mg eod to keep the bloat down.