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Why do you thing GH is what you need?
i dont quite agree according to his goal... though im not sure the healing properties are proven or not, but imo would definately not hurt to find out...
i would look more into something like tb-500 bro... i don't think you really know what your getting yourself into with hgh...
do we also know the long, or even short term repercussions of these new research chemicals...
im fairly convinced that its at least sane to attempt hrt or rejuvinative doses of hgh just as much as the doctors that do so...
blood work and such is a great idea...
idk what would draw you to come to this conclusion based on any of the previous posts... i know you like the peptides and like to support the site sponsors and all...
thelastmrbigg15
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i like the peptides also! lol had herniated disc from doing bent over rows took some time off let my back heal and there was still a slight pain after 2+ years the very first peptide injection back pain was gone and i could deadlift again with authority so i'm hooked... something works with them... i'm a def. believer
it has NOTHING to do with the sponsors my man... it has to do with all the feedback I have read about (Not just on this board) from users and how well they have responded to tb... the healing properties people have been reporting on it are in abundance all over the place and that is why i pointed him in that direction... hgh is not what he needs at all... if you think hgh is safer then thats your opinion but after nearly a year of research and talking with MANY that have used it long term and the reported problems they have had, I will not go near it... I will also not advise anyone to do so... If someone wants to, that's their call...
tb is composed of a unique amino acid chain and promotes muscle growth and healing... major difference than hgh... it hasn't been around as long, yes, but for you to claim i just like to support sponsors is complete bull shit... will i support them, yes, but i don't just tell people to use their shit... if its not necessary i don't tell them too...
Tb500 is a proven healer. Long term, who knows?? But doesn't almost everything have some type of downfall if It is not used correctly? I know nothing about hgh but I would second the tb500 from all I've heard from other members' experiences, as well as what I've read about it.
you dont need to sound so defensive... i never said it would be wrong to try, however...
would you care to point us in the direction where all these people are giving you feedback on tb?...
really, we need a peptide board seperate from the aas board... this is just getting to be a mess...
i havent really seen one person on a true hrt dose of hgh reporting any problems???... care to link a few threads?
the only thing that got me riled up is the sponsor comment moya... other than that, any questions you have are fair, that's what the board is for...
i never said anything about hrt doses of hgh, but as i said before... i have talked to so many guys that have used hgh long term (clients, people at the gym, read online, etc... ) that have reported nasty fucking side effects from hgh... were there doses higher than hrt doses, yes, they were... however, for me, that's scary enough... On this board in particular, talk to "InsanityApproved" and ask him what HGH did to him... its fucking scary... now im not saying its going to happen to everyone and if used in the right, i still think it can be beneficial, but i was offering another alternative since the op was just wanting to use the healing properties... here's some listed and known sides from hgh...
Even though the claims made by manufacturers are either outright false or yet to be proven, it hasn't stopped people from resorting to its use. What people don't realize is the fact that they are making themselves vulnerable to the adverse effects of human growth hormone by falling for these claims made by the companies. While the use of HGH under medical supervision for HGH deficiency is usually considered safe, it doesn't rule out the chances of side effects altogether. But obviously, under medical supervision there are very few dangers which are likely to occur. However, the risk of side effects increases when HGH is taken in higher doses and/or without medical supervision.
The most common side effect is acromegaly - a medical condition that begins with the overgrowth of facial bone and connective tissue, leading to a changed appearance due to protruding jaw and eyebrow bones. This condition also leads to an abnormal growth of the hands and feet with an increased growth of hair all over the body. Contrary to the claims which say that HGH helps you live longer, acromegaly in fact shortens your lifespan considerably.
Mentioned here are some of the known side effects of the undue use of HGH.
- Acromegaly (as described in detail above)
- Premature death in case of acromegaly
- Heart enlargement due to prolonged use of HGH, which can't be reversed
- Low blood sugar with the risk of going into a diabetic coma
- Elevated cholesterol levels
- Excessive hair growth all over the body
- Excessive water retention in the body, leading to edema
- Itching of the skin and numbness
- Thyroid damage
- Liver damage
- Muscle and joint pain
- Increased hunger
- Abnormal fat distribution
- Gynecomastia (enlarged breasts in males)
- Extended belly
- Carpal tunnel syndrome
- Swelling and hardening of arteries
- Prolonged exposure to HGH can increase the risk of Hodgkin's Lymphoma.
- HGH injections can lead to increased risk of cancer.
- Injection site reactions are a common side effect of HGH injections.
Will that happen to everyone, no but for me, i would rather stay away... a simple google search will provide you all the links you need... im sure there are plenty of links of users that are happy with their usage too but there's so much conflict on it, i would rather stay away...
as far as tb goes... its in its newer stages so it obviously has not been around as long as hgh has... so the feedback and studies are not as rampant, but the users are out there... on this board, "keith1" "rustilldown" "jack steel"
as far as other feedback, there are a bunch of logs out there to look at with absolutely wonderful feedback...
TB500 Testimonial - Professional Muscle
dece's TB-500 Log - Page 2 - Professional Muscle
http://www..com/forum/peptide-science/622037-tb500-ghrp6-mod-grf-injury-log.html
http://www..com/forum/peptide-scien...-tb-500-research-log-brought-you-vibrant.html
this is just a few...
i should have worded it differently... i wasnt accusing you, just asking if maybe you were more inclined to go that route just because youve had success with their products...
i though he was pretty clear he was going after a hrt dose, thats what he mentioned (1.5 IU, 5 on 2 off) before you posted...
i would NEVER reccommend anyone using growth to get big...
but peps have bad sides at high doses too, correct?...
thank you for the links btw...
its all good bro... sometimes i take things the wrong way because i am posting so much... its all good...
i missed the part on the hrt dosing so that was my mistake...
shit, everything has shown to have bad side effects... i think i am mostly scared of the enlarged organs from hgh and some of the heart problems fucking young guys have had from its use... that scares the shit out of me...
anytime on the links... there's plenty more but i have to head to the gym soon or i would have posted more...
i know it seems ignorant, but the vision sides from peps really turn me off more that heart sides... both are pretty shitty though... i will most likely never use either though... im more of an aas fan... if it aint broke dont fix it, and for now it works for me...
s4 is the only one with the vision sides but for some that can be scary... i agree about it ain't broke don't fix it... no point bro!
seandh07
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Funny thing is he has his own thread, about this exact same topic!
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TheSVPdeal
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FUNNY.
I would also go with TB-500. I have read nothing but good things. It's like getting the healing properties of Growth without potential sides like fucking with your blood sugar and insulin and eventually diabetes.
...but like we said those arent really issues at the proposed hrt dose...
TheSVPdeal
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I agree; 1.5 ius is very low but I would still check glucose levels daily to be safe.
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