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rahil said:
boss as u r firsty try deca 200mg and dinabol 30 mg for 10 weeks . u will gain atleast 20 pounds

How do you guys like Deca? I don't want to look too bloaded, but I def want to gain a few pounds more in mass, From what I read most on this site Deca just bloads you up and reduces cuts, also how are the results strength wise? I'm not sure if I can get my hands on any Test, but i can definetly get Deca, Sus, Dbol, or winstrol but i think thats out of the question, I also kinda of have an idea of the difference between Test and Deca but I'm not to sure what the main differences are??
 
deca made my appetite go up a lot which is why i was able to gain a lot of weight. if you are worried about bloat, take some arimidex during the cycle.
 
Start with low doses bro. You won't need much at all to make big gains on your first cycle. No reason to jump into heavy doses; you won't get better gains, but you will get more sides. I'd say sustanon 250mg/week for 10-12 weeks. Couldn't hurt to take adex with it too.....maybe .5 cc a day.
 
krishna said:
Start with low doses bro. You won't need much at all to make big gains on your first cycle. No reason to jump into heavy doses; you won't get better gains, but you will get more sides. I'd say sustanon 250mg/week for 10-12 weeks. Couldn't hurt to take adex with it too.....maybe .5 cc a day.

This is a smart reply.

Based on this logic .... you could drop the sust down to 175 and add low dose tbol.

This would allow you to have a very decent first experience and see how you react, both physically and psychologically to this change.
 
if you're goin to inject sus, id inject twice per week to keep your test levels from fluctuating. sus has 4 diff types of tests with diff half lives which is why the levels fluctuate
 
OKAY MAN, YOU ARE BUILT A LOT LIKE ME

so, i dont see a need for 500mg/test per week, even though that is "standard newbie cycle" your first will be your best, remember that so dont cheat yourself.

i would run approx 300-400mg/week of test e/cyp
dbol if you want for the first 4-6 weeks no longer at 20mg/day (15 will work, dont believe otherwise)
study on pct.

oh, and double your fucking protein bro, 2-3grams PER POUND OF BODY WEIGHT
 
shrimp44 said:
How do you guys like Deca? I don't want to look too bloaded, but I def want to gain a few pounds more in mass, From what I read most on this site Deca just bloads you up and reduces cuts, also how are the results strength wise? I'm not sure if I can get my hands on any Test, but i can definetly get Deca, Sus, Dbol, or winstrol but i think thats out of the question, I also kinda of have an idea of the difference between Test and Deca but I'm not to sure what the main differences are??
FYI, sust IS test... comes in 250mg/ml so your best bet that route is 2 amps a week (every 3.5 days) for a total of 500mg , adex will help with bloat like stated...

deca does not take away my cuts very much... bloating and bulking is what take away your cuts.. keep your diet clean, drink lots of water, and i'm not sure if adex or nolva will help much when on deca, but they do a little bit from what i've heard.

test/deca are two totally different compounds. do some research, get a hold of anabolics 2005 or 2004 and do a lot of reading.
 
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