First cycle

[Little Boy]

Stats: 23 years old
Heigh: 6'1"
Weight: 210
~12% bodyfat

My proposed cycle goes like this.

Test enanthate 500mg 1-10
Dianabol 50mg 1-4

PCT 12-14
Nolva 60mg Day 1, 40mg Day 2-11, 20mg Day 12-21
Clomid 150mg Day 1, 50mg Day 2-21

Sound good? Still havn't decided if I'll use arimidex....

 

[ricorico]

try to get some HCG, and most people would say run just the test for your 1st cycle, but if you insist on using the dbol then def drop the dosage to something more like 30mgs a day.....50mgs a day is a very high dosage for a 1st time user, see how you react to 30mgs a day 1st!.......good luck dude, let us know how it goes

 

[Macronne]

How long have u been training?

like rico said 50mg dbol is too much. 25-30mg for a newbie works good,

good luck bro

 

[littleb]

i would also get hcg for pct, and i would at least have the adex on hand, if you are not sure if you are gonna run it or not, this way if you bloat up bad you can start it right away rather then waiting for it after you order it. and if you dont use it you will have it for a later cycle

 

[pdaddy]

Stats: 23 years old
Heigh: 6'1"
Weight: 210
~12% bodyfat

My proposed cycle goes like this.

Test enanthate 500mg 1-10
Dianabol 50mg 1-4

PCT 12-14
Nolva 60mg Day 1, 40mg Day 2-11, 20mg Day 12-21
Clomid 150mg Day 1, 50mg Day 2-21

Sound good? Still havn't decided if I'll use arimidex....

This is the exact cycle I'm running right now bro. I'm running the nolva and clomid pct a little differently though. I'll be picking up the dbol @20mgs every morning weeks 9-12, then starting my pct which is:
Clomid:
300mgs day 1
100mgs ed for next 10 days
50mgs ed for final 10 days
Nolva: 20mg ed for a month

I've done a lot of research on ending cycle w/ dbol (do a search, ton of info.) and many people claim to be able to keep more gains. I'm on day 12 right now and have already put on ~7lbs, I'm blessed with not recieving any dbol sides ie. water retention, gyno, so it's actually making me pretty vascular and adding LBM with great strength gains. I hear the test will kick in around week three which is right around the corner so I've got that to look forward to. I'll let you know how I progress, so far a great cycle. Oh yea, I'm 26 yrs old, started out at 190 lbs., 8%bf, 61/2ft. tall. I would love to end around 210lbs. it has been my life long goal to reach that weight. I started out at 165lbs. six years ago when I started lifting.

 

[Little Boy]

Been training for 3.5 years, started off at slightly over 150lbs.

I do insist on d-bol for my first cycle. I was also going to stack EQ at 400mg a week, but I realized it's too much.

I guess I can do the HCG...I just don't know how to mix it or know much about it, I've honestly never bothered to do a lot of research on it, but I'll start looking into it heavily. I defiantely don't want to bloat up heavily.

I will get arimidex to have on hand, too.

 

[krishna]

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[jokerswild]

Run HCG, you will be glad you did and its cheap, I know the dbol is also cheap but like others said 25-30mg will give you all the gains and back pumps you can handle....

 

[monkey arms]

Looks like a great 1st cycle. You will not be disappointed!

 

[Little Boy]

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Run HCG, you will be glad you did and its cheap, I know the dbol is also cheap but like others said 25-30mg will give you all the gains and back pumps you can handle....

Allright, you guys convinced me.

Looks like a great 1st cycle. You will not be disappointed!

Thanks! I actually don't plan on starting til November, but I'm gonna get everything in stock soon so I need to finalize the cycle.

 

[Bruce]

yeah bro fuck taking test and not having hcg, its a terrible idea. i think you should run the test for 12 weeks thats the only change i would make. looks good to me, what kind of enanthate you got

 

[sweed]

looks good , but i also agree on taking 30 mgs dbol for first few weeks... i did that my first cycle.. and that was enough for my size... started at 225. also hcg is needed, it helped me a lot. good luck. its going to be a fun ride

 

[The Terminator]

I do insist on d-bol for my first cycle. I was also going to stack EQ at 400mg a week, but I realized it's too much.

I defiantely don't want to bloat up heavily.

I will get arimidex to have on hand, too.

If you DONT want to bloat up then I would cut that dbol dosage (in half would be my recommendation)
And use arimidex right from the start... (.5 to 1 mg eod should do it)

 

[Little Boy]

yeah bro fuck taking test and not having hcg, its a terrible idea. i think you should run the test for 12 weeks thats the only change i would make. looks good to me, what kind of enanthate you got

I hope to use golden triangle test.

I always figured 12 weeks would be better.....but seems like too many guys say stick to 10. I'll consider 12 though, sounds good to me.

 

[Little Boy]

looks good , but i also agree on taking 30 mgs dbol for first few weeks... i did that my first cycle.. and that was enough for my size... started at 225. also hcg is needed, it helped me a lot. good luck. its going to be a fun ride

Allright, I'll take 25-30mg. I trust you all.

So will it be okay to just use hcg post cycle? Or would a mid cycle use be important?

 

[Little Boy]

If you DONT want to bloat up then I would cut that dbol dosage (in half would be my recommendation)
And use arimidex right from the start... (.5 to 1 mg eod should do it)

I'm gonna have the arimidex, but maybe not use it unless bloat gets terrible, but I really am curious to see how much I do bloat, that way at least I know....so perhaps if I don't bloat, I don't have to bother using arimidex in the future.

 

[krishna]

Allright, I'll take 25-30mg. I trust you all.

So will it be okay to just use hct post cycle? Or would a mid cycle use be important?

You have to use nolvadex in conjuction with HCG for post cycle. Use the nolva 2 weeks past the HCG.

 

[Little Boy]

You have to use nolvadex in conjuction with HCG for post cycle. Use the nolva 2 weeks past the HCG.

Well, my ignorance on HCG is apparent.

I'm assuming that means I don't need clomid, correct?

 

[LVTitan]

I'm gonna have the arimidex, but maybe not use it unless bloat gets terrible, but I really am curious to see how much I do bloat, that way at least I know....so perhaps if I don't bloat, I don't have to bother using arimidex in the future.

i never use any anti-es during a cycle myself. i also dont use any hcg during the cycle. i save it for pct and i rarely hold more than a few lbs of water anyway so bloat never was really big factor for me.
i would shy away from too much hcg use, as i've read that it can desensitize your body the more u use it, therefore becoming less and less effective each time.
but thats just one guys opinion

 

[ricorico]

Well, my ignorance on HCG is apparent.

I'm assuming that means I don't need clomid, correct?

idealy youd use HCG, Nolva and Clomid for PCT....