First cycle

[Bruce]

ok your only 20, im not givin you the wait till your 23 lecture, so i am gonna say u shouldn't need more than 250mg of test a week. youve been lifting for 5 years if your at a plateau go for it.
weeks 1-12 test enanthate 250mg a week
weeks 8-12 winstrol depot 50mg ed, just drink it
assuming your bf is low, u will get mass from the test and strength and hardness like a mofo from the winny

 

[krishna]

I'm 6 foot, and I went from 200 to 228 on my first cycle with 250 grams of test just like Bruce said to use. I ate like a mofo though and added some fat. I've trimmed off the fat and kept 218 solid at 10% bf. I think it's gonna depend on your diet bro. I was 26 when I did my first. Not sure how much your age is gonna come into play on this one.

 

[smaretick]

ok your only 20, im not givin you the wait till your 23 lecture, so i am gonna say u shouldn't need more than 250mg of test a week. youve been lifting for 5 years if your at a plateau go for it.
weeks 1-12 test enanthate 250mg a week
weeks 8-12 winstrol depot 50mg ed, just drink it
assuming your bf is low, u will get mass from the test and strength and hardness like a mofo from the winny

Sounds good; I've never used winny before but heard positives about it...what about kicking off the cycle with dbol or tbol?

 

[sweed]

ok your only 20, im not givin you the wait till your 23 lecture, so i am gonna say u shouldn't need more than 250mg of test a week. youve been lifting for 5 years if your at a plateau go for it.
weeks 1-12 test enanthate 250mg a week
weeks 8-12 winstrol depot 50mg ed, just drink it
assuming your bf is low, u will get mass from the test and strength and hardness like a mofo from the winny

i dont wanna lecture too, but he is not a plateau... if hes stuck growing.. he needs to fine turn something.. most likely diet. and 20, hes still got pretty high natty test in him... i know when i was 20 I gained like 30-40 lbs (not all muscle obv.)i ab out 6 months, but it was because i changed my diet.
but if he cant help it... test e 250 mgs for 10- 12 weeks with the pct bruce suggested. no more than one compound for first cycle.

 

[UA_Iron]

I wouldnt go under 500mg test a week personally.

But it sounds like there's other issues that are stunting your goals.

 

[cougar8]

Test Enanthate 500mg/week or sust 250 at 500mg/week

Ive got about 5 years of training in

Im around 200LBS

6'1

and loooking for a good first cycle

Some say I should just do a teste cycle? and responce to that?

 

[sweed]

I wouldnt go under 500mg test a week personally.

But it sounds like there's other issues that are stunting your goals.

the dude's only 200 lbs... im on 500mg and im at 245 and i have gained very nice. no need to go more. he;ll just need more for future cycles.
sup UA

 

[UA_Iron]

yeah he'd probably grow on 250mg/week

gettin pretty big huh sweed? awesome

 

[Raffaz]

Still be good to know his BF%

Mick

 

[sweed]

yeah he'd probably grow on 250mg/week

gettin pretty big huh sweed? awesome

he's def grow..... im tryin... clean diet starts june 1st.. real diet starts july 1st.... getti down to 210 - 215 around 5% hopefully in sept... im workin my way up to 280... gradually,lol