First cycle

[jsimon]

Ive got about 5 years of training in

Im around 200LBS

6'1

and loooking for a good first cycle

Some say I should just do a teste cycle? and responce to that?

 

[Bruce]

yes everyone will tell you to do test only. just run 250 mg a week of test enanthate for 12 weeks and run proper pct with nolva and hcg.
my cycle preference is deca, but thats me, don't get the dreaded deca dick.

 

[jsimon]

Should my gains be pretty good?

 

[Bruce]

what r your stats homey. bf how long you been pumpin for

 

[Bruce]

i mean its hard to say bro, i need to know your bf, but still your 200 lbs, the bigger you are the harder it is to put on weight. ya know 180-200 is cake compared to 200-220. what are your goals as well

 

[jsimon]

to Put on some lean mass

 

[Bruce]

ok, can u tell me your bf. imo test is fine, but if you want lean mass a little eq in the mix would be nice for shredding you up.

 

[smaretick]

Besides your stats, it would also help to know something about your training & diet. AAS should only be used after you've tried to make gains by all other natural means (e.g., adjusting your diet, training, & supplements). To really make good gains on test or any AAS, you need to have these other factors in check first. It would also help if you stated your age.

 

[Bruce]

Besides your stats, it would also help to know something about your training & diet. AAS should only be used after you've tried to make gains by all other natural means (e.g., adjusting your diet, training, & supplements). To really make good gains on test or any AAS, you need to have these other factors in check first. It would also help if you stated your age.

yeah bro, i wasted deca the first time i ever geared up. took it had no clue how to eat or how much protein was needed. complete waste, don't even count it as a cycle. also i was thinking if your bf is low enough screw the eq test and some winstrol would rock.

 

[jsimon]

im 20,

My workout is

Monday-Chest,Tricep
Tuesday-Legs,Abs
Wed-OFF
Thursday-Bicep, Back
Friday-Shoulders,
Saturday-Abs
Sunday-Off

Diet I try to eat 50g/Protien in 6 meals a day.
meat Selection: Steak,Chicken,Pork,Fish
Vegtables,Cottage Cheese,Peanuts (somtimes)
Fruit (Somtimes)
Oats,Eggs
Carbs-Rice, Pasta with nothing on it occasionally
Supplments-Whey,Creatine,Multivitamin,Nlarge2,ZMA,Glucosumine

 

[Bruce]

ok your only 20, im not givin you the wait till your 23 lecture, so i am gonna say u shouldn't need more than 250mg of test a week. youve been lifting for 5 years if your at a plateau go for it.
weeks 1-12 test enanthate 250mg a week
weeks 8-12 winstrol depot 50mg ed, just drink it
assuming your bf is low, u will get mass from the test and strength and hardness like a mofo from the winny

 

[krishna]

I'm 6 foot, and I went from 200 to 228 on my first cycle with 250 grams of test just like Bruce said to use. I ate like a mofo though and added some fat. I've trimmed off the fat and kept 218 solid at 10% bf. I think it's gonna depend on your diet bro. I was 26 when I did my first. Not sure how much your age is gonna come into play on this one.

 

[smaretick]

ok your only 20, im not givin you the wait till your 23 lecture, so i am gonna say u shouldn't need more than 250mg of test a week. youve been lifting for 5 years if your at a plateau go for it.
weeks 1-12 test enanthate 250mg a week
weeks 8-12 winstrol depot 50mg ed, just drink it
assuming your bf is low, u will get mass from the test and strength and hardness like a mofo from the winny

Sounds good; I've never used winny before but heard positives about it...what about kicking off the cycle with dbol or tbol?

 

[sweed]

ok your only 20, im not givin you the wait till your 23 lecture, so i am gonna say u shouldn't need more than 250mg of test a week. youve been lifting for 5 years if your at a plateau go for it.
weeks 1-12 test enanthate 250mg a week
weeks 8-12 winstrol depot 50mg ed, just drink it
assuming your bf is low, u will get mass from the test and strength and hardness like a mofo from the winny

i dont wanna lecture too, but he is not a plateau... if hes stuck growing.. he needs to fine turn something.. most likely diet. and 20, hes still got pretty high natty test in him... i know when i was 20 I gained like 30-40 lbs (not all muscle obv.)i ab out 6 months, but it was because i changed my diet.
but if he cant help it... test e 250 mgs for 10- 12 weeks with the pct bruce suggested. no more than one compound for first cycle.

 

[UA_Iron]

I wouldnt go under 500mg test a week personally.

But it sounds like there's other issues that are stunting your goals.

 

[cougar8]

Test Enanthate 500mg/week or sust 250 at 500mg/week

Ive got about 5 years of training in

Im around 200LBS

6'1

and loooking for a good first cycle

Some say I should just do a teste cycle? and responce to that?

 

[sweed]

I wouldnt go under 500mg test a week personally.

But it sounds like there's other issues that are stunting your goals.

the dude's only 200 lbs... im on 500mg and im at 245 and i have gained very nice. no need to go more. he;ll just need more for future cycles.
sup UA

 

[UA_Iron]

yeah he'd probably grow on 250mg/week

gettin pretty big huh sweed? awesome

 

[Raffaz]

Still be good to know his BF%

Mick

 

[sweed]

yeah he'd probably grow on 250mg/week

gettin pretty big huh sweed? awesome

he's def grow..... im tryin... clean diet starts june 1st.. real diet starts july 1st.... getti down to 210 - 215 around 5% hopefully in sept... im workin my way up to 280... gradually,lol

 

[michoncameoa]

hey bruce just asking why you gave him the advice for the winny, to just drink it .
if hes going to do it isnt it more effective and less damaging to hit it im ? im taking around the same cycle as him and i fell its better to have more scar tissue on my ass then my liver correct me if im wrong cuz these sticks ed do suck

 

[Bruce]

when i was a young stupid ass with no experience, i followed my friends lead cause he was 205 5% and benching with 5 plates, he took winstrol eod im for 2 years straight, i thought it was harmless, i did it for 6 months and my liver was fine, so was my boys. he had unreal genetics and got away with the eod. i needed it ed so i drank when not injecting. it goes through your liver no matter what homey

 

[asianlover]

I'm 6 foot, and I went from 200 to 228 on my first cycle with 250 grams of test just like Bruce said to use.

250 grams, jesus christ krishna a bit much for a first cycle huh. how many injections was that a week?