first cycle

[msclehead]

whats up guys..this is going ot be my first cycle..starting on monday..i am going to be on 250mg of test...and 300mg deca..stacked...i was wondering when should i start to take the clomid and the...and what would be the gyno effects i would get if i was to get any?

help would be great...thanks

 

[MaxBiceps]

Take clomid three weeks after your last shot of deca. I doubt you'll
get any gyno. Your doses are pretty small.

 

[msclehead]

maxBiceps
thanks for the info...what kind of gain do you think i will get from this cycle...i preloaded my needles with the amount that i said before...my weight is 210lbs..5'10...i amlready bench 315 without any thing... that for the info

msclehead

 

[GaryWary]

Take clomid three weeks after your last shot of deca. I doubt you'll
get any gyno. Your doses are pretty small.

Small yes.. but small is good for newbies (like myself). You will gain. You will gain well.

Buy some clomid and proviron and use half a tab of each for anti-estrogen duties... that is what I pretty much do on similar doses of AS... better to be safe than sorry - besides which anti-e's keep the water off... and keep you looking normal and buff... rather than like michelin man..

 

[Maxx Out]

Just run 1 tab nolv. throughout your cycle and u'll have no worries!

 

[MaxBiceps]

Just run 1 tab nolv. throughout your cycle and u'll have no worries!

Yes, 10 mgs a day of nolva will keep the test gyno at bay, but at 250 mgs a week, you probably
won't even need it. The deca at 300mgs shouldn't be a worry either. It aromitizes very poorly,
and 300mgs is a low-end dose.

 

[msclehead]

thanks guy..i will keep you posted with before and after pics..i am really excited if i have anymore question i will write..thanks


msclehead

 

[gzeus69]

It's hard to say what gains you'll get - make sure you have a solid diet planned to max your gains though.

 

[Kain]

First cycle

That is a light cycle for those of us who are tenured up into the 750mg - 1000mgs a week zone. For a first cycle it is not bad because your recepters are fresh. You will have significant gains on that cycles in comparison to what you are used to Im sure.

If you keep your diet relatively clean, get your protien up with some gainer shakes you will grow like a weed.
As for the bloating, I wouldnt worry about it too much with that light of test. Once you start getting into higher test levels is when you start storing the walnuts in your cheeks! I would say you'll get 15-20lbs depending on your diet and animal like training.

I personally use novladex in case of emergency only and always have on hand some arimidex incase the sides get really bad.

As for the Clomid, as said above begin that at 100mg / day about 2-3 weeks after your last test shot. then continue 50mg/day for 2 more weeks. That should get the boys ready for battle.

good luck and keep us posted.
Kain

 

[Arkan]

Re: First cycle

Once you start getting into higher test levels is when you start storing the walnuts in your cheeks!

What exactly do you mean by that?

 

[Kain]

Arkan

A lot of people experience a lot of water retention when they are on heavy cycles of test. The walnut thing is an analogy, like when you are mid cycle and your face gets really fat. IE: like a squirell storring walnuts for the winter.
If you feel more comfortable, you can use the Michillin man analogy from above.

Kain