First Cycle

[idcbp]

MuscleA., I'm not sure if maybe I've been away from the boards too long, but where I live 50mg of dbol for a first timer isn't keeping dosages low bro. Neither is 9 weeks 17-a's. I don't know who told you this cycle would limit side effects but he was smoking something, in my humble opinion. I'm not trying to give you a hardtime, b/c your responses show you genuinely want to get things right. Alot of guys can't take any criticisms so my hats off to you, but the cycle you were given really would be too long on the dbol for anyone, much less a first timer. By pyramiding up and down you spend limited time at the peak growth dosage while extending the duration and thus increasing the chance for sides. You should pick a dosage (20-25 is my suggestion) and go at it for 6 weeks and out. The deca is fine, but that dbol plan is no good. I'd up your dose to 25 tomorrow and run it for another 3 weeks (7week total MAX), if youdon't see some good size gains I'd start to question the dbols legitimacy. Don't go for 9 weeks and don't pyramid up to 50mg on your first cycle, particularly if you're stacking. Good luck bro.

 

[riverrock]

I agree with The Welshman! A Test would work alot better than Deca. The thing is, you really need to get off D/Bol after the 4th week. Problem then is that you are left on a Deca only cycle and that's not going to give you anything near the kind of results you want. You'll gain from the D-Bol shortly as everyone pointed out, but after that... Would suggest running a test like Sustanon for the remaining weeks either on its own or better again- with the Deca. If you have any left over - Give it to The Scottish and Welsh Rugby/Football teams!!!

 

[SuperDawgy]

If you're 4 weeks in, i would drop the dbol and run the deca with test for the next 6-8 weeks. I would never recommend dbol for a first cycle or deca for that matter, But what's done is done. Get some cyp or enan and finish this cycle, plan your PCT now. After you are clean, ask for help with your next run. 15mgs of dbol a day is not going to give you an immediate massive weight gain even with deca. Don't be afraid to ask questions bro, you could have been well on your way to a good solid 10-15 pound gain right now had you done so. Good luck and keep hitting it hard. -Dawgy

 

[KayKo]

Like a couple of the guys said, try to incorporate test into the cycle, possible 500mgs per week. I believe that would help with gains, as well as help you with a possible "limp noodle" if it occurs. HTH!!!

 

[muscleaxe]

Thanks for helping me out i have now adjusted my cycle to this-
1 - 5 week 15/25mg D-Bol
1 - 9 week Deca 200mg
5 - 9 week Test Enan 500mg
10 - 11 week HCG
1 - nolvadex every day

i am just about to finish the D-Bol and start the test when i get it this week
is the HCG and Nol suitable for the PCT of this stack? Gains are pretty good at the moment but i was wondering if the Nol was keeping the water retention down?

 

[SVT-TROY]

Thanks to everyone who's replying to my 'First cycle'
the cycle i've been told to try was -
9 - weeks on deca
Dbol-
week
1 - 5 tabs
2 - 6 tabs
3 - 7tabs
4 - 8tabs
5 - 9tabs
6 - 10tabs
7 - 8tabs
8 - 6tabs
9 - 4 tabs
then week10 & 11 a HCG
this was with 1 nol each day,
but as this was my first cycle i have kept the Dbol low because of side affects.

I'm not claiming that I know a damn thing, but 9 weeks doesn't sound good.

 

[muscleaxe]

I'm not claiming that I know a damn thing, but 9 weeks doesn't sound good.

if your refering to the dianabol i've already changed it to 5 weeks on then stopping.