first cycle

[DeepZenPill]

I'm planning my first cycle now and just wanted to get some members' inputs. I'm wary of any sides right now and don't know how I'll react, so I'm starting off very mildly with my choice of juice.

I have it down for 30mg of anavar ED for 6 weeks, then 50mg clomid ED 2 weeks post cycle. If I just went this var cycle alone, would I even need nolva on hand? I've heard from most people that gyno is impossible with var because it doesn't aromatize, but I don't want to be caught with my pants down on that one.

And is there anything you guys would recommend to stack with the var which also has minimal sides? I'm most concerned about hairloss and gyno. I would love to go with winny as well, but I've been advised against stacking two 17aa's, even though the var is mild. I'm 5'8" 165lbs and I'm trying to gain at least 10lbs on this cycle. I'm a pretty easy gainer and I think I could make nice gains on just var, but anything else that would be good on a first cycle would definitely help.

 

[DeepZenPill]

bump for some input, it would be much appreciated. thanks.

 

[Axe]

It is good that you want to go mild on your first cycle. Why don't you just run some test. It will be a lot cheaper and you will be happier with the results?

 

[gilly6993]

Yea, run some test....save the anavar for a bridge or use it at the end of the cycle....

 

[DeepZenPill]

The thing is, I'm 19 and var would be safer than test which I still have naturally high levels of. I know I'm gonna hear a lot of guys saying not to use any AAS for a few years, and I respect their advice. I'm not diving into this headfirst without doing my research either, I've been considering my options for over a year and I've made my decision to take it to the next level.

I don't mean to come off arrogantly about it either, I'm just being extremely decisive and careful with my decisions as it is. I think anavar will give me a great boost for training and gains with minimal long term effects. I have the potential for more growth heightwise and I know var would have little if any impact on that. I also think I might be predisposed to gyno since I've had big nips all during my teenage years, and I don't want to deal with that shit my first cycle.

The other thing about test is that I'm not about to go injecting yet because I'm a bitch. So I was planning to stick to orals for the first cycle.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

yeah just go with 40mg anavar for 8 weeks then if you don't want to inject and want to keep it mild. make sure to get good stuff from a trusted source.....lotta bad anavar out there. i'd love to use some real anavar one day.....just once....

 

[Axe]

bump for some input, it would be much appreciated. thanks.

You wanted input but then you say you have your mind made up. So here you go - Fuck yeah man I think it is a great idea. Anavar only for your first cycle...Its going to rock!

 

[wartime100]

For your goals I would try a 10 week 600mg eq cycle. Eq has minimal sides and helps put on quality muscle. Var is too expensive and it is very easy to get ripped off with fake shit.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

For your goals I would try a 10 week 600mg eq cycle. Eq has minimal sides and helps put on quality muscle. Var is too expensive and it is very easy to get ripped off with fake shit.

yeah, i have to agree there. i was debating EQ at high dose for 8 weeks vrs anavar at 40mg for 8 weeks next cycle. we're talking 2-3 hundred bucks of QV EQ vrs 5-600 bucks of denkall anavar for PROBABLY the same gains. i don't think i could justify that. BUT if needles scare you THAT bad...then pay triple and get off easy in that regard.

 

[DeepZenPill]

yeah just go with 40mg anavar for 8 weeks then if you don't want to inject and want to keep it mild. make sure to get good stuff from a trusted source.....lotta bad anavar out there. i'd love to use some real anavar one day.....just once....

Yeah bro, I thought I had it all planned out and then I noticed how shady my source really was so I gotta look around for someone else now. I'm planning to do the cycle in the spring so I hope I have time to get someone better. I swear I'll go insane if i get scammed on this expensive of a first cycle.

You think 40mg for 8 weeks will give me substantial benefit over 30mg for 6? I've been toying around with 6 or 8 weeks, I would probably end up with 8 anyway. I was planning on buying 200 of 10mg spanish generics, and 40mg for 8 weeks would require me to lay down the cash for another pack of 100. But this might all change if I have to buy from someone else.

 

[DeepZenPill]

You wanted input but then you say you have your mind made up. So here you go - Fuck yeah man I think it is a great idea. Anavar only for your first cycle...Its going to rock!

Well I didn't mean to contradict myself, I was pretty set on the var but looking for suggestions on anything in conjunction with it or if I should just take it alone, keeping the sides in mind.

 

[DeepZenPill]

For your goals I would try a 10 week 600mg eq cycle. Eq has minimal sides and helps put on quality muscle. Var is too expensive and it is very easy to get ripped off with fake shit.

Yeah a few of my buddies have been singing the praises of EQ, so I've been keeping that in the back of my head for some time now. I'll have to look into that a bit more as my source only has the china man's EQ and I've been hearing conflicting advice on how often to inject.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Yeah bro, I thought I had it all planned out and then I noticed how shady my source really was so I gotta look around for someone else now. I'm planning to do the cycle in the spring so I hope I have time to get someone better. I swear I'll go insane if i get scammed on this expensive of a first cycle.

You think 40mg for 8 weeks will give me substantial benefit over 30mg for 6? I've been toying around with 6 or 8 weeks, I would probably end up with 8 anyway. I was planning on buying 200 of 10mg spanish generics, and 40mg for 8 weeks would require me to lay down the cash for another pack of 100. But this might all change if I have to buy from someone else.

40mg for 8 weeks just sounds like the best idea to me. but you could slide by either way. 30mg of the good stuff would be adequate.....6 weeks vrs 8 weeks....well you know an extra two weeks is always good. with anavar though, i know i am always trying to figure out how to save a buck. reason more to go with the EQ and anadrol i was thinking about.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Yeah a few of my buddies have been singing the praises of EQ, so I've been keeping that in the back of my head for some time now. I'll have to look into that a bit more as my source only has the china man's EQ and I've been hearing conflicting advice on how often to inject.

i'm injecting EQ200/Sust250 three time a week right now. but if i did EQ itself like i was talking about next cycle....i'd do 400mg monday and 400mg thursday. you can get away with one shot of 400-600mg once a week though if you wanted. confusing enough? lol.

 

[DeepZenPill]

i'm injecting EQ200/Sust250 three time a week right now. but if i did EQ itself like i was talking about next cycle....i'd do 400mg monday and 400mg thursday. you can get away with one shot of 400-600mg once a week though if you wanted. confusing enough? lol.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing about 600mg just once a week, and I know I eventually really wouldn't mind the injections. Just a bit harder to hide the pins from my roommate rather than pills. But anyway EQ hunger would definitely be a welcome side

Thanks for the info so far

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing about 600mg just once a week, and I know I eventually really wouldn't mind the injections. Just a bit harder to hide the pins from my roommate rather than pills. But anyway EQ hunger would definitely be a welcome side

Thanks for the info so far

haha. i live alone and i got needles and dbols and shit all around the house. lol. so my mom called today and said she'd stop by and pick up my dog tommorow to watch him....and i'm like oh shit, better do some creative hiding. pills though you can say are "supplements" from GNC. needles really stand out. i'd go with the EQ once a week at 600mg and hide the shit...its only once a week and it will save you tons of money as well as a lot of pill taking.

 

[bmit]

Good, sounds like you have done some research. 19 is probably too young to use. But if, and only if, you have diet, rest, and training, var will be perfect. Few to low side effects. Will allow to growth heigth wise and should make for nice gains. Use clomid and learn how to do clen during and post cycle

 

[T2O]

Just stick with the anavars 30mgs ed. I would make sure you take some milk thistle along with it. You don't need to worry about gyno. I wouldn't bother with the clomid unless you want to be extremely safe.