First cycle with stats age everythannng

[keepnitreal]

Hey guys Give me critques or sugesstions here...
first cycle age 21... 2 months from 22 when I plan to start epistane..
been lifting for.4 ish years... 5'7
171 lbs looking lean..weighed.as much as 200 durin bulk but injury had me lose some mass andd i decided to cut down too..anyways looking for something.to give me.the.edge to help me get.my mass back..will start a clean bulk soon...

1-6 epi 40/40/50/50/60/60
1-6 n2guard
1-6hcgenerate
3-10 forma stanzol

pct

7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 unleashed/post cycle combo
7-10 daa powerchews or powder

This is what I have on paper so far...I was thinking about doing this OR just wait a year or so and.just do a
12 week test e cycle @300
with hcgenerate and proper pct....

thoughts ? any point in running epi now or should I wait a while and just run test e at around the age of.24-25 ? thoughts ?

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[Texas Monster]

You are still pretty young. And at 171 That is pretty decent but you can always improve more naturally. So I would highly recommend you stick with the natural route for just a few more years. Then run the epi cycle.

When you are ready to run your cycle:

Just stick with this epi cycle for your first cycle. Then you can always run the test cycle next year too! You should yield good gains if your training and diet is on point and you stay healthy through the offseason.

For your PCT continue with the Forma for another 4-6 weeks.
Also add in some NTBM bridge on the last 4 weeks of your PCT. That way you are stretching it out to 8 weeks.

PCT week 7-10
Clomid 25/25/25/25
PCT+Unleashed
Forma 7-10,12
daa powder 7-10
NTBM bridge 11-14.

Nice job doing all your HW. Since you are going to have to get 2 bottles of hcgenerate anyways to be able to run it for 6 weeks also continue what you have left going into pct. Same goes for if you have any n2 gaurd left over.

 

[keepnitreal]

thanks for the quick reply boss. I gotta pick up a few shifts at work if im gonna buy all this and buy my crapload of chicken.breast and beef lol also stupid question here...have some clen lying around..any point in adding.clen to aid in any way? thanks.again.

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[keepnitreal]

also any coupon codes to n2bm ? or.any sort of.coupons to credible places ?

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[rich_89]

Clen is a decent fat burner, thats it. Its good if you combine it with T3.

 

[oxymoron]

also any coupon codes to n2bm ? or.any sort of.coupons to credible places ?

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Just use the search field. I always forget all the discounts.


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[Texas Monster]

Big note on clen and T3......

DO NOT FUCK WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY WILL FUCK YOU HARD!!!!!!

Clen will destroy your heart. I know a few fellow bros who went on the clen craze to shred down only to end up with cardiovascular disease. It is not worth it man.

T3 is very catabolic and will eat away at your muscles. If you take too much of it it can lead to Thyroditis. This is close to liver cirrhosis in the same way that the thyroid swells. This in turn causes the extra release of t3 into the blood stream. You will have normal tsh, t4 but an elevated t3. The problem is that it acts like Hyperthyroidism which can lead to very undesirable side effects that left untreated by beta blockers can become life threatening and can potential negatively effect your BB career. These side effects include weight loss, frequent bowel movements, increased heart rate, heart palpitations, dizziness, fatigue shortness of breath and heart disease.

 

[joeblow12345]

also any coupon codes to n2bm ? or.any sort of.coupons to credible places ?

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Ntbm code- needto139 for 15%off.

NTBM REP

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Big note on clen and T3......

DO NOT FUCK WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY WILL FUCK YOU HARD!!!!!!

Clen will destroy your heart. I know a few fellow bros who went on the clen craze to shred down only to end up with cardiovascular disease. It is not worth it man.

T3 is very catabolic and will eat away at your muscles. If you take too much of it it can lead to Thyroditis. This is close to liver cirrhosis in the same way that the thyroid swells. This in turn causes the extra release of t3 into the blood stream. You will have normal tsh, t4 but an elevated t3. The problem is that it acts like Hyperthyroidism which can lead to very undesirable side effects that left untreated by beta blockers can become life threatening and can potential negatively effect your BB career. These side effects include weight loss, frequent bowel movements, increased heart rate, heart palpitations, dizziness, fatigue shortness of breath and heart disease.

This ^^^^^^^^

 

[keepnitreal]

This ^^^^^^^^

wow really ? ive read numerous reviews and researched al ot before i webt on it. I maxed at 120mcg then dropped back down to 20 -40 gradually. doing 2 weekson 2 weeks off...a bbuilder at the gym when I speaking with him says he doses it at 200 mcg... So i thought I was fine if I averaged a dose around 60-80 mcg but again thanks for heads up...guess Ill just sell the clen

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[Texas Monster]

wow really ? ive read numerous reviews and researched al ot before i webt on it. I maxed at 120mcg then dropped back down to 20 -40 gradually. doing 2 weekson 2 weeks off...a bbuilder at the gym when I speaking with him says he doses it at 200 mcg... So i thought I was fine if I averaged a dose around 60-80 mcg but again thanks for heads up...guess Ill just sell the clen

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It is not so much the dosage it is the amount of time that you are on it for. Even going 2 weeks on 2 weeks off is very harsh.

I have cycled clen before and it scared the shit out of me when I came off of it. I had irregular heart beats and sometimes I would get a very very very sharp pain in my chest only for 1 or two beats and then it would dissappear. Got it checked out at the doc and everything came back fine ( this was after a few weeks after the fact though).

And when you take it you feel like a fucking crackhead. Your hands will shake and when you get done working out you will crash. During your workout though you will be bouncing off the walls.....and it will also feel like your heart is about to come out your chest..

 

[burnthiscorpse]

wow really ? ive read numerous reviews and researched al ot before i webt on it. I maxed at 120mcg then dropped back down to 20 -40 gradually. doing 2 weekson 2 weeks off...a bbuilder at the gym when I speaking with him says he doses it at 200 mcg... So i thought I was fine if I averaged a dose around 60-80 mcg but again thanks for heads up...guess Ill just sell the clen

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It is a scientific fact that clen is harmful to your heart. It's your fucking heart bro. I'd rather run a gram of test year round than ever touch clen.

 

[keepnitreal]

It is not so much the dosage it is the amount of time that you are on it for. Even going 2 weeks on 2 weeks off is very harsh.

I have cycled clen before and it scared the shit out of me when I came off of it. I had irregular heart beats and sometimes I would get a very very very sharp pain in my chest only for 1 or two beats and then it would dissappear. Got it checked out at the doc and everything came back fine ( this was after a few weeks after the fact though).

And when you take it you feel like a fucking crackhead. Your hands will shake and when you get done working out you will crash. During your workout though you will be bouncing off the walls.....and it will also feel like your heart is about to come out your chest..

oh boy I know the shakes...not to mention the cramps too...taurine.helped a little.

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[dylangemelli]

bro, fuck the clen... the clen is not worth the risk and t3 is a muscle eater... no thanks... if you are ever going to run a thermogenic then albuterol is definitely the best option...

i would definitely wait to run anything... you need to get the most you can out of your natural growth and take advantage of all the gains you can make that way... you can make some amazing gains over the next few years... you also need to keep in mind that this is an expensive lifestyle... the money you spend on gear and supplements is alot as well as all the food you are going to be needing... its not cheap and if you can't afford all of the proper things to cycle then you have no business doing it... be smart bro... why would you ever mess with your test and hormones at such a young age? its not worth it man... be smart...