First cycle - thoughts and opinions very welcome

[AndyRice]

Hey, first can I say big thanks to those on here for your efforts to help others with their cycles etc. I have been reading this forum for a while and have learned a lot from you guys.

Ok, so I'm at a point where I am ready to do my first cycle (not including an anavar only cycle I did a couple of years ago at 80mg per day with great results)

Firstly, my stats:

Height: 6'3''
Weight: 106 kilos
Age: 22
Body fat: 10-12%
Years training: (thaiboxing and crossfit, followed by bodybuilding): 4 years
Years bodybuilding: 2 years
Living in: UK

I am lucky to have good genetics (especially for a tall guy) and great friends/training partners, some of which compete in bodybuilding, who have helped me a lot and therefore have made good gains in the time I have been bodybuilding

Cycle:

Weeks 1-10: Sustanon 250 at 500mg per week
Weeks 1-10: Deca at 200mg per week
Weeks 1-8: Dbol at 50mg per day

PCT: HCG and nolvadex

Thanks a lot for any info, opinions and thoughts on my cycle (and any other areas) guys. Much appreciated.

Any more info needed just ask and I'l do my best to answer!

Thanks all!

Andy

 

[kiai]

too much for first cycle and NO NO for Deca on your first cycle.

Your pct is weak as well.

do more research first !

 

[AndyRice]

Thanks, I will do.

Does Sustanon at 250mg per week (week 1-10), Dbol at 25mg per day, and no deca sound some where towards being better?

Thank you.

 

[Judo Tom]

dont run the dbol for 8 weeks.. 4 is plenty

 

[IceIzNoble]

^What he said, youll kill your liver going that long,
4 is enough and even sustanon alone will give good
results.

IcE

 

[Pound4PoundAAS]

I made the mistake of using deca for my first cycle, please don't do the same! It completely killed my sex drive and I held way too much water. Cut your test down to 300mg weekly if you're going for 10 weeks. Only use enough to get the desired results, anything more than that is a waste and could hurt you. Good luck!


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[C0LUMB0]

welcome to the site bro.

just run the test for 10 weeks @ 500mg and 20-25mg is a good starting point for dbol.save the deca for a later cycle ( 200mg is too low to yield decent gains by the way )

i see guys using 40-50mg but 25mg is my sweetspot for good strength without loss of appetite and lethargy.

use liver support while oncycle...N2GUARD is topnotch as it has your daily dose of multivits aswell as your liver support.

use the hcg @ 250 iu twice a week during the cycle starting on week 2 and finish same day as your last shot of test.

i would not use nolvadex for pct but if you are going to use a serm , a low dose of clomid @ 25mg for 4 weeks would be better .
Grab these to beef up your pct and speed up recovery :

forma stanzol
post cycle
unleashed
phytoserms 347

keep your diet clean and drink shit loads of water...especially while running the dbol. 4 litres minimum !

 

[Wasner]

What would be a good first cycle? I've done all the research but I just need some opinions.

 

[gwilym]

What would be a good first cycle? I've done all the research but I just need some opinions.

What columbo said I'm 6th 6 19st 4lbs ran a course just as above and had some good results last september run dbol not more than 4 weeks..
The good news with a 10 week test only cycle is you can run another cycle about 14 weeks later if your pct is right....

Post cycle, unleashed is a good PCT and well worth the investment personally I have not used forma but have 2x bottles ready for my next cycle..

 

[AndyRice]

Wow, lots of feed back, thanks everyone.

Ok, so I'll avoid the deca, and stick with the 500mg sus week 1-10, and 25mg Dbol for only the first 4 weeks (not 8)

I will also try and get Unleashed, Post cycle and Forma stanzol to boost my PCT - though don't know if they are easy to get in England.. does anyone know?

Also, just out of interest, why would you not advise Deca for a first cycle? How would taking it for your first cycle differ from your second, third etc.? Would it do harm to take it? And do everyone suffer from a drop is sex drive when taking it? Even when taken with test?

Thank you all.

 

[gwilym]

I will also try and get Unleashed, Post cycle and Forma stanzol to boost my PCT - though don't know if they are easy to get in England.. does anyone know?

Ordered from mr supps & orbit (n2bm out of stock) to Wales prior to Xmas only sticking point was customs charged me the vat on the forma (I made multiple orders) £16 + £8 handling charge by parcel force....apparently if the order is below £100 and 45 days apart you don't get charged..
All arrived within two weeks

 

[C0LUMB0]

Wow, lots of feed back, thanks everyone.

Ok, so I'll avoid the deca, and stick with the 500mg sus week 1-10, and 25mg Dbol for only the first 4 weeks (not 8)

I will also try and get Unleashed, Post cycle and Forma stanzol to boost my PCT - though don't know if they are easy to get in England.. does anyone know?

Also, just out of interest, why would you not advise Deca for a first cycle? How would taking it for your first cycle differ from your second, third etc.? Would it do harm to take it? And do everyone suffer from a drop is sex drive when taking it? Even when taken with test?

Thank you all.

predator nutrition should have them products in stock : Sports Supplements, Bodybuilding Supplements and Sports Nutrition

you can also order from needtobuildmuscle and get a discount code from hurricane or RADAR.

deca on a first cycle is fine as long as all goes well....but if you develope gyno when you run test you wont know if it has by progestin induced and in turn not know how to combat it.

stick with test for your first cycle , you will be glad...trust me

 

[AndyRice]

Ok, that's great thanks. I will run just the test and dbol, and save the deca for next time.

Thanks very much for your advice Columbo, very helpful bro.