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First Cycle, - Testoviron Depot 250

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lingski

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Between gun shy and crazy is sanity. That is where i like to think I am so please, good advice.

Anyone have experience with this stuff. Testoviron, It is test-e according to the box. but never heard of the stuff

Stats,
33 years old, 220, 20% Yes i know i am fat at this point.
I lift 5 times a week, heavy and 3-5 sets. The big three Chest, Legs and Back. I do alone M, W, F. No other muscles.
Here are my questions,

This will be my first cycle.
Test Only Mon am, and Thurs, pm 250mg per injection
At 10 weeks of 500mg, would you use Armidex the entire time? I have seen many posts and 500mg a week does not seem to crazy, as far as gyno goes but I know everyone is different.

Armidex is really not easy to find here.
PCT I can order, as I have 10 weeks to get it.
PCT I was thinking just Clomid, but I see so much about Nolva i wonder if i should order both.

Thanks for the advice,
 
I'd use the adex throughout. Start at 0.5 mg e3d and adjust as necessary. For pct run clomid 25 mg day, forged post cycle, test infusion, daa, and forma for 4 weeks.


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joeblow is on the money...but you need to do some reading on all of this....if you needed the box to tell you that testoviron depot is test enanthate then you have a lot to learn.
 
There is SOOOO much info on this board - take advantage and read everything you can. I knew literally nothing when I first registered and the members/mods have been incredibly helpful and patient answering questions and helping me along. But you have to do some of the work yourself by doing some research and reading.
 
lingski said:
Between gun shy and crazy is sanity. That is where i like to think I am so please, good advice.

Anyone have experience with this stuff. Testoviron, It is test-e according to the box. but never heard of the stuff

Stats,
33 years old, 220, 20% Yes i know i am fat at this point.
I lift 5 times a week, heavy and 3-5 sets. The big three Chest, Legs and Back. I do alone M, W, F. No other muscles.
Here are my questions,

This will be my first cycle.
Test Only Mon am, and Thurs, pm 250mg per injection
At 10 weeks of 500mg, would you use Armidex the entire time? I have seen many posts and 500mg a week does not seem to crazy, as far as gyno goes but I know everyone is different.

Armidex is really not easy to find here.
PCT I can order, as I have 10 weeks to get it.
PCT I was thinking just Clomid, but I see so much about Nolva i wonder if i should order both.

Thanks for the advice,
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I would run the AI the entire time to prevent any problems.
 
Make sure to get ur pct put together before hand shit can happen its better to be play it safe u only got one body.

Sent from my SPH-M580BST using EliteFitness
 
No shoulders or arms, 20% BF, and not knowing much about juice is a disaster waiting to happen......
 
Sorry for the confusion.-- i meant No other muscles on the days i do chest back or legs. Arms and shoulders I do together, Lower Back and Abs I do together,


Yes I said, the Box is labeled Test-E. That was so you didnt need to search the name Testoviron.

I live in Thailand, nothing is as it seems.

So, lets start again shall we.,

Dont worry about my Diet, or My Routine. Yes I am 20%.. I must not know anything about fitness... OR i broke 4 ribs in a motorbike crash 3 months ago, and decided to eat whatever I want and actually drink beer which i rarely do.. I have been under 10% many times.

I am interested in this type of test... if anyone Here "Thailand" or where ever, has used this brand.

Thank you for the constructive comments... I for sure will get all together first. I am educated enough to know when to ask.. There is a ton of info on this board I agree.. But man is it conflicting sometimes.
 
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dont even bother with 250mg loll...
get Dianabol.. Sust250 and Deca... this will get you the results you are after...

on 250mg of test e .. by the time it will kick in.. if at all coz u live in thailand lol... u will get a few weeks with some great pumps and more apetite.. and maybe some acne on back lol.....

Hell in my opinion you shouldnt touch this shit.
 
thanks for the reply.... but i think i better learn to walk before i run.. And ill be on 500mg. 250 is just the name.

understand where you are coming from. Nothing is as it seems in thailand.. Even some of the "women" as a few of my poor friends have found out... the hard way..
 
"...understand where you are coming from. Nothing is as it seems in thailand.. Even some of the "women" as a few of my poor friends have found out... the hard way.."
LOL:) Very fanny!

You might live in Thailand, but your humour sounds very British.

500mg/week of enanthate with a mild AI and proper PCT in hand before you start, will see you through on a first cycle.
Providing you put the work in, get the rest, and consume plenty of good calories, you should get some appreciable results. Who knows, you might even get the bf% down to 15% on your run.

Good luck.
 
Thanks... going to Get pct today.

Let's get this show on the road...

And. USA. But don't hold that against Me. Lol
 
Little road block.
Arimidex. . Is simply not available. .. at lest from what I am told.

So.

250mg M / T test e W 1-12
25-50mg of mesterolone ED W 1 - 14
100mg / day clomiphene citrate W 12-13
50 mg/ day clomiphene citrate W 13-14

Input anyone?
 
lingski said:
Little road block.
Arimidex. . Is simply not available. .. at lest from what I am told.

So.

250mg M / T test e W 1-12
25-50mg of mesterolone ED W 1 - 14
100mg / day clomiphene citrate W 12-13
50 mg/ day clomiphene citrate W 13-14

Input anyone?
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Arimidex is all over the fucking place dude. Go to any number of sponsors here that sell ancillary drugs.
 
Rule #1 of cycle club is dont talk about cycle club
Rule #2 of cycle club is always have all drugs in your possession before you start the cycle.
 
This board is really frustrating. I mean i never said i started. And I asked for input, NOT a bunch of D-Bag comments.

Armidex is not at this time available as the Thai Gov, is really watching the pharmacies.

A Doctor still had to write a prescription for Mesterolone as it is also a anti-estrogenic..


So, from another board, i was told.

Pass on the Mesterolone, and look for Femeria it is available.. I was told aromatase is far better then an anti-estrogen,

So,
To clear things up..

The first rule of a cycle is "help people asking for questions on a steroid board"
and the second i believe is " STFU if you can't help"

simply saying this is junk doesn't solve anything. If you are smart enough to know it is bad, please tell me how to fix it. If " Armidex is the ONLY way. I cant help but wonder what all the other people here are using.
 
lingski said:
This board is really frustrating. I mean i never said i started. And I asked for input, NOT a bunch of D-Bag comments.

Armidex is not at this time available as the Thai Gov, is really watching the pharmacies.

A Doctor still had to write a prescription for Mesterolone as it is also a anti-estrogenic..


So, from another board, i was told.

Pass on the Mesterolone, and look for Femeria it is available.. I was told aromatase is far better then an anti-estrogen,

So,
To clear things up..

The first rule of a cycle is "help people asking for questions on a steroid board"
and the second i believe is " STFU if you can't help"

simply saying this is junk doesn't solve anything. If you are smart enough to know it is bad, please tell me how to fix it. If " Armidex is the ONLY way. I cant help but wonder what all the other people here are using.
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If you can't get adex can you get aromasin? If all you can get is proviron then that will be ok at the small dose of test your running. The only issue with that is when you get to pct. if you don't have an ai to use then and have to use proviron it can screw your recovery up. Proviron can cause shutdown so that's not a good choice in pct. I'd try and find aromasin or see if you can get forma shipped there. Forma and the other Ntbm products I suggested earlier in the thread aren't illegal so I don't see why you can't get them. I also laid out pct and I said use 25 mg clomid not 100. You don't ever need 100 mg clomid ever. 25 is more then enough. While your waiting on your cycle support and pct to come I suggest using that time to cut to 15%bf. Hit the diet hard with cardio and a good fat burner. I suggest n2burn if you can get it. Good luck.


Use code joeb15 for 15% of at Ntbm.
 
Thanks for the good reply.

Yes I can get Femeria, and actually i was told I can now get Adex, but 1mg liquid gels. The doc said, just bring a "female" to get the script or the gov will be on his butt.

SO, 1mg a day vs .5mg a day ok for Adex or do i just get the Femeria.

Thanks for the help, - And yeah, back at it.. No junk food, No Beer.. / 1.5 hours cardio a day. and lifting. Feels good to be back in the gym. but my ribs are still killing me when i bench. Damn broken ribs.. i dont reccomend it at all.. lol
 
lingski said:
Thanks for the good reply.

Yes I can get Femeria, and actually i was told I can now get Adex, but 1mg liquid gels. The doc said, just bring a "female" to get the script or the gov will be on his butt.

SO, 1mg a day vs .5mg a day ok for Adex or do i just get the Femeria.

Thanks for the help, - And yeah, back at it.. No junk food, No Beer.. / 1.5 hours cardio a day. and lifting. Feels good to be back in the gym. but my ribs are still killing me when i bench. Damn broken ribs.. i dont reccomend it at all.. lol
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If you can get the adex only at 1mg gel tabs then take 1 tab every third day or eod if you start having gyno symptoms. I'd still get the letro (femara) to have on hand in the unlikely event you get gyno. It's too strong to use regularly and will limit gains due to it killing all estrogen. The body needs some estrogen to function properly. That's why adex is a good choice. It will keep estrogen at a reasonable level.


Use code joeb15 for 15% of at Ntbm.
 
I have searched a lot and hear a lo of people say... lose weight and diet before you start you cycle.. I think everyone about 15% or so has been told the same.

Is this because they really should not cycle at a high body fat, or because they can not be trusted to diet correctly to get proper gains / losses or nutrition in general.

I am now 20% or so. I am certainly in control of my diet after my 3 month binge of being lazy and hurt.

Do i wait until i am at 15% or lower, or can i cycle before that as long as i don’t bull$hit and no junk food, no alcohol.

Thanks,
 
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