First Cycle! Sust and Var

[pack22s]

What's up guys? First post here just looking for comments/suggestions on my first cycle! Did my first pin ever on tuesday and I was so shocked at how painless it really is, I'm hooked. Anyways on to the details.

Organon Sust 250: 500mg Weeks 3-12
Doing a 1g/week frontload Weeks 1-2

Hulk Anavar: 50mg Weeks 7-14

Letro: .625mg ed Weeks 0-2
Aromasin: 12.5mg eod Weeks 3-19
Nolva: 40/40/20/20 Weeks 15-19
Clomid: 50/50/50/50 Weeks 15-19
HCG(if I can get some): 500iu Weeks 4-14

Stats:
Age-22
Weight-202
Height-5'10"
Bodyfat-12%
Been training consistently for 5 years now, and dieting for 3.

Bench-365
Squat-415
Deadlift-470

Did a ton of research and have all pharma grade ancillaries (not taking any chances). I'm using 25g 1" pins and shooting in my delts. I'm shooting for 20-25lbs on this cycle and will be using a push/pull/legs/off routine designed by my trainer Chris Hanley in preparation for my first show in December. Any comments/suggestions would be great guys, thanks.

 

[Svenman19]

dont bother with the frontload man it does nothing but increase sides

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[EZ_E]

Holy shit 1G a week on a FIRST CYCLE??

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

What's up guys? First post here just looking for comments/suggestions on my first cycle! Did my first pin ever on tuesday and I was so shocked at how painless it really is, I'm hooked. Anyways on to the details.

Organon Sust 250: 500mg Weeks 3-12
Doing a 1g/week frontload Weeks 1-2

Hulk Anavar: 50mg Weeks 7-14

Letro: .625mg ed Weeks 0-2
Aromasin: 12.5mg eod Weeks 3-19
Nolva: 40/40/20/20 Weeks 15-19
Clomid: 50/50/50/50 Weeks 15-19
HCG(if I can get some): 500iu Weeks 4-14

Stats:
Age-22
Weight-202
Height-5'10"
Bodyfat-12%
Been training consistently for 5 years now, and dieting for 3.

Bench-365
Squat-415
Deadlift-470

Did a ton of research and have all pharma grade ancillaries (not taking any chances). I'm using 25g 1" pins and shooting in my delts. I'm shooting for 20-25lbs on this cycle and will be using a push/pull/legs/off routine designed by my trainer Chris Hanley in preparation for my first show in December. Any comments/suggestions would be great guys, thanks.

You're 22 and you're thinking of a gram of sust? Front-loading is a myth.

Here is a cleaner cycle, 10 weeks:
250mgs sust/week (1-10)
40mgs of var/day (1-6)
Arimidex 0.25mgs EOD
d-spark 1cap/day
HCGenerate ES 3 caps AM/2 pre-workout
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

Bridge: 2 weeks
HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout
Bridge from N2BM

PCT: 4 weeks
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
+ d-spark 1cap/ED
Clomid 50/25/25/25
arimidex 0.25mgs EOD
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

 

[Labtec70]

Everything looks good, but the dosage of Sustanon.

If you've NEVER cycled before, and your Organon Sustanon 250 is genuine - shoot us a pic and I can tell you. I've been on it for 12 years - then 250mg every 5 days is the most you will need for a first cycle. A gramme to front load is a waste, and unnecessary, not to mention the side effects. Besides, you have no idea how you're going to respond to high amounts of androgens and you can't take it out once you've pumped yourself with 1000mg of Sustanon. It'll take at least 16 days for any symptoms to even begin to fade should you have a bad experience.

Sustanon in Organon form is in my opinion the very best, most potent, and trustworthy pharmacy compound and 250mg every 5-days will bring about the gains you hope to achieve over 10-12 weeks, without having to go to the realms of pricey, unhealthy, and wasteful amounts. If your diet and training is in order I can't see why you won't get at least 8-12Ibs of lean mass on a mdest first cycle. Don't forget, after this cycle you're going to want to probably increase your dosage for the next. Going on the 1g front load, and 50mg/week for a 1st cycle, what will your 5th or 6th cycle look like? 2g or 3g of Trenbolone?

Keep it real and stay safe! You want to be in this game for years don't you?

All the best.

Craig

 

[pack22s]

You're 22 and you're thinking of a gram of sust? Front-loading is a myth.

Here is a cleaner cycle, 10 weeks:
250mgs sust/week (1-10)
40mgs of var/day (1-6)
Arimidex 0.25mgs EOD
d-spark 1cap/day
HCGenerate ES 3 caps AM/2 pre-workout
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

Bridge: 2 weeks
HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout
Bridge from N2BM

PCT: 4 weeks
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
+ d-spark 1cap/ED
Clomid 50/25/25/25
arimidex 0.25mgs EOD
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

Ok everyone, let's relax it's not too late to drop the frontload idea. I was going off the advice of a local with a bunch of cycle experience, but I'll drop the frontload. Any reason to use anavar the first 6 weeks as opposed to the last 6?

 

[pack22s]

Everything looks good, but the dosage of Sustanon.

If you've NEVER cycled before, and your Organon Sustanon 250 is genuine - shoot us a pic and I can tell you. I've been on it for 12 years - then 250mg every 5 days is the most you will need for a first cycle. A gramme to front load is a waste, and unnecessary, not to mention the side effects. Besides, you have no idea how you're going to respond to high amounts of androgens and you can't take it out once you've pumped yourself with 1000mg of Sustanon. It'll take at least 16 days for any symptoms to even begin to fade should you have a bad experience.

Sustanon in Organon form is in my opinion the very best, most potent, and trustworthy pharmacy compound and 250mg every 5-days will bring about the gains you hope to achieve over 10-12 weeks, without having to go to the realms of pricey, unhealthy, and wasteful amounts. If your diet and training is in order I can't see why you won't get at least 8-12Ibs of lean mass on a mdest first cycle. Don't forget, after this cycle you're going to want to probably increase your dosage for the next. Going on the 1g front load, and 50mg/week for a 1st cycle, what will your 5th or 6th cycle look like? 2g or 3g of Trenbolone?

Keep it real and stay safe! You want to be in this game for years don't you?

All the best.

Craig

Thanks for the solid advice. I'll post a pic in a few but for reference it has an off white stripe around the ampule neck (i know this was a good indicator of the real/fake amps). I'm not sure as to how long I'd like to cycle into the future. I went into this cycle as solely a contest prep tool and who knows how long I'll be competing for, probably not long lol. As for cycle experience, this is my first injectable cycle. I've ran prohormones before, and a 4 week anadrol cycle (yes I know worst idea ever) and i've tolerated them all very well, but I suppose this is a whole new level.

But as far as sides, I understand the half lives off these esters and you're right about the side effects lingering for a while. I was lucky and had very little pip even with a 2ml virgin muscle injection in my delt. Will pm a picture in a little bit.